Is doing 100s of sit ups another example of moronic backwards boxing training?

[AlexKid]

Here's Manny Pacquiao's ab routine. It seems to have worked really well for him and helped him become a multiple weight world champion.

What have you accomplished with your methods, AlexKid?

Just because it works and has works for champions doesn't mean its optimal and that an unknown can come up with a better way. Remember these things have been passed down for generations coming from a time when people where quite ignorant about athletic training.

Even today with modern training, elite trainers are messing up left right and center, boxers are coming into the ring with a ton of bodybuilding hypertrophy and ruining their endurance without gaining much power, see calzagge vs jeff lacy.

So yes a nobody can be right vs a world class trainer that produces champions

[krazyn8tive]

Hey Alex, abs will get you more pu$$y...or more bbc. Whatever you like, it will help if anything else

[AlexKid]

Hey Alex, abs will get you more pu$$y...or more bbc. Whatever you like, and will help if anything else

You get abs faster with more resistance than body weight.

[ShoulderRoll]

So yes a nobody can be right vs a world class trainer that produces champions

Well, the only way to prove it is to produce something with your ideas and compare the fruits of your labor to those of others.

Let's see some actual real world results. Not empty theories.

[AlexKid]

Well, the only way to prove it is to produce something with your ideas and compare the fruits of your labor to those of others.

Let's see some actual real world results. Not empty theories.

Holyfield, Tyson Chugov are the real world results for good chins partly due to ALOT of muscle mass on the neck, Holyfield was a cruiser weight too, all of them small heavyweights taht went up against some of the best punchers in history.


So again you are wrong.

Also it shows the madness and ******ity of the boxing world in that most boxers have large chests or biceps but most dont have big developed necks.

The boxing world is ***** ******.

If it were smart nearly every boxer would have thick strong developed neck muscles.

[El-blanco]

Not sure how a guy as intelligent as alexkid is an unsuccessful ******.

[AlexKid]

not sure how a guy as intelligent as alexkid is an unsuccessful ******.

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[Vinnykin]

I managed to get a six pack by eating right, lots of cardio and doing a mixture of AB exercises; sit-ups, crunches, oblique crunches, bicycle crunches and leg raises. I'd usually do all of those in a set of 5 minutes a few times a day. If you want to build the AB muscles you can wear weight vests, do these exercises on an incline or use an AB crunch machine with heavy weights, more for body building though

[Rockin']

Abs are included in punching power,

Bigger, but more so, stronger necks aid in punch resistance.

[Redd Foxx]

Your abs arent used in any significant endurance type way, they are needed for armor to protect your organs, yes ive done many sit ups pull ups and press ups, and ive done bench press, weighted pull ups and weighted sit ups, the many reps sit ups and pull ups are worthless! You have to increase weight to keep them effective not increasing reps.

Increasing reps doesn't increase muscle size or strength, it does increase endurance but you dont use your abs that way at all in a fight, you just tense them alot bracing impacts, you dont even need good endurance to do that.

The primary point of abs is for armor isnt it?

I see teh same ******ed thing being done with neck exercises, instead of a big neck liek Tysons or Holyfields or chugovs, many boxers are making their necks enduranced, when they need muscle. Its dumb as hell, only in boxing can you get trainers and athletes this ******ed.

No, they are not primarily for armor. They are part of the core that holds the upper and lower body together. Without them and the lower back, you'd be folded in half at the middle.

Yes, they are significantly involved in boxing endurance. That's why you'll see threads here about people fatiguing in their midsection, even when they're not getting it. Those muscles are getting used when you slip, dart back, weave, anything where you are moving and your upper body needs stability.