Is doing 100s of sit ups another example of moronic backwards boxing training?

[GelfSara]

Lots of nice scientific theory. But where is the actual proof of boxers reaching world class status with the methods of Dr. McGill or Arthur Jones?

Here's Lomachenko's ab training. He hasn't ruptured any discs yet.

Those are largely crunches, not sit ups.

Crunches--properly performed--are far safer than sit ups.

Is he using ideal form for crunches? No, but then again, every athlete who has ever lived has fallen short of perfection in countless ways; perfection is a goal one strives for but does not consistently reach.

[ShoulderRoll]

Those are largely crunches, not sit ups.

Crunches--properly performed--are far safer than sit ups.

Is he using ideal form for crunches? No, but then again, every athlete who has ever lived had fallen short of perfection in countless ways; perfection is a goal one strives for but does not consistently reach.

Ok. But the more pertinent point is that he's doing a high volume of ab exercises. Doing lots of reps and not focusing on "hypertrophy."

[GelfSara]

I don't think it's necessary but at the same time, it sort of the easiest way to create density in the abdomen.

Show me a boxer who doesn't do sit ups at all or create any form of density in their abdomen and I'll show you a boxer who can't take a body shot. 100% of the time.

I certainly agree with you that one should train one's abs and obliques--regardless of whether one is or is not a boxer.

The reason why sit ups presumably became so popular is that they can be performed with little or no equipment; all one needs at best is something or someone to hold one's ankles or feet down.

Boxing is strongly associated with poverty and lack of education; it is also--not coincidentally--a sport which regards innovation more suspiciously than do many other sports; these factors contribute to boxers training in ways that are considered outdated by athletes in many other sports.

[GelfSara]

Ok. But the more pertinent point is that he's doing a high volume of ab exercises. Doing lots of reps and not focusing on "hypertrophy."

You misunderstood the point that was being made. It isn't a high number of reps that is the primary problem. It is training with a weight that is so low that it permits a very high number of reps to be performed continually. Properly performed crunches or situps are not easy exercises; for the vast majority of trainees it would be impossible to perform a very high number of either continually; generally if one hears of a person who can perform a very high number of sit ups continually they are using a very circumscribed range of motion and avoiding the bottom portion, which is far more difficult.

[OctoberRed]

You misunderstood the point that was being made. It isn't a high number of reps that is the primary problem. It is training with a weight that is so low that it permits a very high number of reps to be performed continually. Properly performed crunches or situps are not easy exercises; for the vast majority of trainees it would be impossible to perform a very high number of either continually; generally if one hears of a person who can perform a very high number of sit ups continually they are using a very circumscribed range of motion and avoiding the bottom portion, which is far more difficult.

You're right. :3some:

[ShoulderRoll]

Here's Golovkin working with his new trainer Johnathon Banks.

Doing, *GASP*, sit ups! Oh no!

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Una publicación compartida por Gennady Golovkin | GGG (@gggboxing) el 23 de May de 2019 a las 8:40 PDT

[GGG Gloveking]

Here's Golovkin working with his new trainer Johnathon Banks.

Doing, *GASP*, sit ups! Oh no!

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Training routines #GGG

Una publicación compartida por Gennady Golovkin | GGG (@gggboxing) el 23 de May de 2019 a las 8:40 PDT

See, that's why Canelo whooped his ass, too