Since when did boxers become so soft??

[stephenmc]

So iv been boxing since I was like 11 or 12 and I went back last year, but its impossible to get a fight, Iv had a few fights since iv been back and have always given away weight. I weigh between 54-57KG (light I know) and always fight at 60+ because its hard to find someone my weight and experience, iv nearly always weighed in with my cloths on

But recently iv given up on fighting and have been training boxers at the local club after a few fights where I was given up alot of weight only for the other boxer not to show, I mean I was given away 6kg and he still didn't want to fight??
Then their is people here in the forums who want to box but complain every step of the way,
Their is a thread their about someone been sore after training?? I mean come on really?? The comments are worse with people saying o you shouldn't be sore don't over train,
You should be crawling out of a boxing gym in near tears and wanting to come back for more....
Is it me or have boxers become 2 soft??

I mean if your only going in to train then fair enough, but if your going in to fight people have to release its not something to take lightly, boxing isn't a hobby, its the only sport where you can legally kill someone.
You need to be prepared to fight anyone and train till you cant stand,
If not you will get hurt end of.

To me anyway, boxers seem to be taking things a bit 2 lightly and afraid of putting in the hard work and getting that mentality of "Il fight anyone"

[Syf]

There's that fighting spirit!

Not sure what the scene is like over in Ireland..but here in the states there is competition to be had for any weight.

You may have a bit of the Paul Williams going on... people not wanting to fight you because of your height as it relates to your weight. 120-125 lbs at your height (6 feet, do I remember right?) you will tower over guys and have a huge reach advantage as well. Pwill also had problems securing fights...people saw what he brought to the table as too problematic.

Perhaps on an Am level..your situation is much the same way. I say if fighting is your passion don't give it up. Where there is a will there is a way.

[kilojay505]

maybe its just the clubs in your area try traveling. I never have a problem finding an opponent in fact most the guys around here just want to fight and not train I think a lot of them end up in the ring way too soon but i live in a highy mexican-american populated area so maybe that makes a difference?

[stephenmc]

nah travelings not the problem, its the weight and experence, im 25 weigh 54-57kg (greyhound breed) , 5;11 and 2much experence for some1 just starting and not enough for lets say elite/olympic level...but sure im happy out with doing the coaching..

what i have a problem with is boxers, and people on here complaing and asking real stuipd qustions that if you have to ask in a forum you shouldnt be in the ring in the 1st place...

i mean for example...im sore after training,,i shouldnt be sparring these people,,i cant last when sparring etc....
grow a pair of balls its boxing..if i said i didnt want to spar after i say i want to fight id be throwin out..and rightfully so.

if your sore after training,good, you cant over train, your not a pro,you should be ready to box each week and keep pushing yourself to your limit.

some of these people can post all they like about throwing the perfect punch and blah blah..but not one of them will win a fight if they compeit because they dont have the right mindset to fight......you can be as fit as you like but once your in the ring,its you,your mind and the other fella, and if your mind isnt right,your going to get hurt!!!

rant over ha

[MOMENTO MORI]

Its true. And to add most people judging from my experience only train to stay in shape, which is crazy since you should want to measure you skills against others when learning how to defend youself.

[stephenmc]

Its true. And to add most people judging from my experience only train to stay in shape, which is crazy since you should want to measure you skills against others when learning how to defend youself.

yup,
and the thing is,i say they rely more on the forum feedback,than what they are being told to do in the club...if their even one

[Syf]

I had you mixed up with another "greyhound breed" that posts here. Heavymetal. But yeah, I see what you are saying... You have to have the heart to compete. I do think training, even if they are not intent on fighting, can take a useful self defense role for people. Even the most timid of animals lashes out when cornered, and that's when their skills they have learned would come into play. Good to have some fighting skill up your sleeve, never know when you'll need it.

And learning by proxy is better than not learning at all.

[Furiosa]

I am 30 yo human female. I was typical nerd in school, spending hell too much time with doctors and violin, so my 20s were all about work and parties. No sport at all until 27 when I start with muay thai. Switch to boxing year later. Everything goes well. The coach asks me what I am thinking about the ring. 2 weeks later, sparring. I don’t bend my knee properly and finish my old bicycle twist. Arthroscopy, month on crotches. Off the gym for 7 months. My friends and family were happy in some way and sure I would never come back to boxing and find something “more appropriate”. I still not sure what they meant knowing I went mountain trekking (including Everest base camp) three times by that moment. It was impossible to give up after all.

4 months now, I gradually came back to training 5-6 times a week and to sparring. Picked up my diet, checking on health. Still have problems, but capable to control them. I don’t care about prizes, but I want to go out there at least once and to win at least once.

Boxing isn’t something you ought to do. You can't allow yourself to be soft in boxing. You don’t sit down and pity yourself after you miss the punch. It doesn’t even matter how many times you fell. You only have to stand up once more. You simply must to surpass your instincts telling you close your eyes, drop your hands and go home moaning on a couch. You don’t have time to waste on frustration.

The mindset to fight is the only thing needed to fight. Yes, we must at least sometimes crawl out of a gym in near tears. Even more, we must know how to be happy about it. Because this is the one and only way to know where our limits are right now and how we can move them. So I suppose people who don't actually want to know where their limits are, just stop fighting for this chance sooner or later. No matter what you advise them on forum or anywhere else.

[Syf]

I am 30 yo human female. I was typical nerd in school, spending hell too much time with doctors and violin, so my 20s were all about work and parties. No sport at all until 27 when I start with muay thai. Switch to boxing year later. Everything goes well. The coach asks me what I am thinking about the ring. 2 weeks later, sparring. I don’t bend my knee properly and finish my old bicycle twist. Arthroscopy, month on crotches. Off the gym for 7 months. My friends and family were happy in some way and sure I would never come back to boxing and find something “more appropriate”. I still not sure what they meant knowing I went mountain trekking (including Everest base camp) three times by that moment. It was impossible to give up after all.

4 months now, I gradually came back to training 5-6 times a week and to sparring. Picked up my diet, checking on health. Still have problems, but capable to control them. I don’t care about prizes, but I want to go out there at least once and to win at least once.

Boxing isn’t something you ought to do. You can't allow yourself to be soft in boxing. You don’t sit down and pity yourself after you miss the punch. It doesn’t even matter how many times you fell. You only have to stand up once more. You simply must to surpass your instincts telling you close your eyes, drop your hands and go home moaning on a couch. You don’t have time to waste on frustration.

The mindset to fight is the only thing needed to fight. Yes, we must at least sometimes crawl out of a gym in near tears. Even more, we must know how to be happy about it. Because this is the one and only way to know where our limits are right now and how we can move them. So I suppose people who don't actually want to know where their limits are, just stop fighting for this chance sooner or later. No matter what you advise them on forum or anywhere else.

I like this post.

Eloquently put.

One must welcome and expect adversity to be a true fighter. A fighter knows that that which breaks an average person forges him (or her!) Into a stronger entity, by bathing in the fires of discipline and pain!