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  • #11
    Originally posted by PsychoJim View Post
    He's also done a video series on the Ring website called "Perfect Execution".

    Yes, good stuff.

    ring.com .craveonline.com/news/361611-perfect-execution-footwork


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    • #12
      Start off by not trying to copy Mayweather.

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      • #13
        Youtube seems to stream it better.

        Only missing like two videos vs on the website. The Jab and the body punches. The rest are on youtube under TheRingDigital channel.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by HughJass View Post
          Yeah,that site might be helpful to you.What i found helped me was to shadowbox in a mirror for hours on end.Then i applied what i was taught and bingo.Like i said before,practice makes perfect.

          If i can help you in anyway,i will.Just keep working hard homie.
          Thank you for the tips homie. I tried shadow boxing with a different stance and its quite awkward at first which I think is normal since I've been doing this without anyone correcting me.

          I will practice as you said to do better and hopefully do better as I apply it on sparring.


          Originally posted by packerfan78 View Post
          you look pretty good. i would suggest bringing your left back higher when you jab. thats how he was able to land his right counter punch. my trainer made me touch my nose everytime i threw a jab so i got in the habit of bringing it back. you could double up on your jab too. like others said keep your chin tucked and relax. otherwise you have good handspeed and good instincts.
          Thanks for the good handpeed and instinct comments!

          For my hands, I will try keeping both my hands up. I will try to do the nose touching thing as I shadow box and hopefully somehow I get my hands up.

          Funny thing is, when I try to double up my jab, I keep getting countered as you see on the video. Any tips on avoiding this?


          Originally posted by 2ofEverything View Post
          Well, first your hands are too low, I mean Hugh pointed out you're dropping the right when you come in but you're also dropping the left. Another thing is your elbows are way out there, tuck them in a bit more because if you go in with a guy with any experience he'll rip those uppercuts down the middle into your solar plexus hard. Another thing is when you go in for anything with a moderate amount of power you're stepping in way too far, almost lunging, and in the video you can see if you don't land those punches you're off balance because of those huge steps.

          And overall I know it was just some light technical but that doesn't mean you have to half ass it, leaving those jabs out for a year isn't going to help you with anything except for catching hooks on the chin.

          Good job so far but you've got a lot of work to do.
          Thanks for the comments. I do notice that I keep getting tagged by straight rights during punch mitts sessions with a trainer. Probably something to do with my body being too square as Hugh has mentioned as well as not tucking my elbows close to my body. Will pay special attention to that. =)

          I also noticed my lunging in. I never noticed it until I recorded myself while doing this but my opponent is very slick with his head movement and pivoting which I think forced me to over commit on my punches.


          Originally posted by wilberbear View Post
          I am not a boxing expert, but if you are a footwork oriented boxer like me instead of a tanker who wades through punches, your footwork seems pointless in terms of timing, rhythm, direction. You seem to be doing footwork for the sake of doing footwork instead of the relevant results from the footwork. youtube.com/watch?v=6q_D4ZS0GQU There is my video. The guy without the gloves is me. I don't have a gym sparring video (didn't have anyone to record video for me). I am very footwork oriented. I don't wade through punches. I just make it difficult for the opponent to aim (the moment I circle around is usually the moment the opponent's punch already started; my timing & rhythm for circling is not random but either spontaneous while the opponent doesn't punch or at the opponent's punch timing). If you are not a footwork oriented boxer, I still think you should move around more often because your opponent can't quite capture the timing whether you are going in or just moving around as your footworks look about the same. If you are stationary without moving your feet, the moment your suddenly start moving your feet, your opponent knows you are doing something. If you are always moving your feet, when you try to do something, your opponent doesn't know if you are just moving your feet or actually doing something. That's my 2 cents (2 cents is the right expression, right? I'm ESL). The most important thing in boxing is not about some pose you do with arms or legs but how to blend in your arm moves & feet moves into casual movements. That's how I see it.

          Blending in moves is also the unique trait in boxing & Muaythai. Most (not all as you see even from Muaythai) East Asian martial arts or Fight Games (I don't really consider Fight Games as martial arts in neither structure nor intention) don't really teach you to shake (or however you call that) your arms & legs at all times. You can hit heavy or light. You can have a lot of muscles or skinny. You can pose however you want. But you gotta land your punches & not get punches landed on. You gotta conceal your intention while reading the opponent's intention. Some people compare boxing to chess, but that's false. Boxing is closer to poker. It is not about brain stamina (calculating up to how many moves) but mental analysis (the power to capture). That's how I see it.
          Thanks! I also think I am wasting too much on my 'unnecessary' footwork. I was trying to confuse my opponent with it but I guess it did not help as much as I want it to. It actually backfired by tiring me the hell down. =))

          Checked your video as well and I noticed your movements. Nice movement by the way. I was hoping to 'turn' or pivot my opponent with my footwork like you did which I failed miserably to do.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
            Start off by not trying to copy Mayweather.
            This comment made me laugh man!

            This is exactly what I told myself when I was watching the video.

            I don't know man but I really like Floyd's style so I think I am emulating him without thinking much about it(and failing miserably at emulating him) but I agree that I should not copy it and go back to the fundamentals as others have mentioned previously.

            Thanks for the comment though! Very good advice.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by xFury View Post
              Youtube seems to stream it better.

              Only missing like two videos vs on the website. The Jab and the body punches. The rest are on youtube under TheRingDigital channel.
              Originally posted by _original_ View Post
              Yes, good stuff.

              ring.com .craveonline.com/news/361611-perfect-execution-footwork


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              Thanks man! I will definitely check on this and the youtube counterpart!

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              • #17
                What's wrong with copying Mayweather? Or were you just trying to assert Mayweather influence? Personally, I have learned more from watching good matches & good fighters (my style is influenced mostly by Mike Tyson & Gennady Golovkin) than from my boxing gyms (I attended 4 different gyms, but they all ****** compared to "watching good fights") & kickboxing gym (attended 1 gym for 6 months). You learn more from watching good fighters & good matches. You evolve a lot trying to replicate the mechanism, & trying to understand why what works & what doesn't work. I circle a lot because Tyson always circle to left & to right even in the middle of punching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM5uUBK_YXQ Most people focus a lot on Tyson's punching power, but his victories were mainly due to his body movements, not punching power. In fact, he could have won just as easily even with less muscles (they would go down with his 1 clean heavy punch anyway). He could not have won so easily without his body movements. How he circles. How he weaves. How he peekaboo. How he angles his head (he focuses a lot on angling his head & placing his head in good locations). Gennady Golovkin is really skinny (not really Chunky like Tyson), but his opponent goes down with 1 clean heavy blow to the liver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNJAfFnLZF8 I wish I could get Golovkin's workout routine.
                Last edited by wilberbear; 09-08-2015, 08:31 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by JulVal View Post
                  This comment made me laugh man!

                  This is exactly what I told myself when I was watching the video.

                  I don't know man but I really like Floyd's style so I think I am emulating him without thinking much about it(and failing miserably at emulating him) but I agree that I should not copy it and go back to the fundamentals as others have mentioned previously.

                  Thanks for the comment though! Very good advice.
                  Originally posted by wilberbear View Post
                  What's wrong with copying Mayweather? Or were you just trying to assert Mayweather influence? Personally, I have learned more from watching good matches & good fighters (my style is influenced mostly by Mike Tyson & Gennady Golovkin) than from my boxing gyms (I attended 4 different gyms, but they all ****** compared to "watching good fights") & kickboxing gym (attended 1 gym for 6 months). You learn more from watching good fighters & good matches. You evolve a lot trying to replicate the mechanism, & trying to understand why what works & what doesn't work. I circle a lot because Tyson always circle to left & to right even in the middle of punching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM5uUBK_YXQ Most people focus a lot on Tyson's punching power, but his victories were mainly due to his body movements, not punching power. In fact, he could have won just as easily even with less muscles (they would go down with his 1 clean heavy punch anyway). He could not have won so easily without his body movements. How he circles. How he weaves. How he peekaboo. How he angles his head (he focuses a lot on angling his head & placing his head in good locations). Gennady Golovkin is really skinny (not really Chunky like Tyson), but his opponent goes down with 1 clean heavy blow to the liver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNJAfFnLZF8 I wish I could get Golovkin's workout routine.
                  The only reason I say not to copy mayweather is because most beginners don't know the "science" behind it. It's way to complicated to explain on one post but if you like his style then by all means go ahead, I like to copy Sugar Ray Robinson's style mixed with a little Marvin Hagler.

                  As for wilberbear, I agree for the most part. You CAN learn from watching good fight videos and in fact one of the greatest Featherweights of all time, Kid Chocolate, learned to box from watching fight tapes at a time when boxing didn't have that many ATG's.

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                  • #19
                    Thanks a lot for all the advice. I did everything suggested unfortunately I did worst than expected.

                    No video today though. Guess I gotta keep putting in hard work and get used to the stance and a more limited visibility by keeping hands up.

                    Got tagged quite a few times to the body as well so it sucks. Second round and I am spitting out the mouthpiece like noob because of bodyshots and lack of energy.

                    Thanks for all the tip though. Im sure Ill get it eventually
                    Last edited by JulVal; 09-13-2015, 05:09 AM.

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