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  • #11
    Testing if I can add a reply because I couldn't in some other thread with some token error.

    As for me, the main problem in sparring is running out of stamina especially because the warm up before a sparring drains me out.

    As for the fear factor, I feel already dead (have been so for years) & I already tried to kill myself (sleeping pill overdose), so dying is not really a problem for me. What concerns me is dying painfully or surviving injured. The same mentality goes for the sparring for me. Compared to dying, it is a joke. Also, I use peekaboo, so I am ensured in defense. Eyes & nose are pretty much the only spot that can be hurt easily. As for the offense, it is just a matter of not missing the timing while the defense is ensured.
    Last edited by wilberbear; 09-07-2015, 09:03 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by wilberbear View Post
      Testing if I can add a reply because I couldn't in some other thread with some token error.

      As for me, the main problem in sparring is running out of stamina especially because the warm up before a sparring drains me out.

      As for the fear factor, I feel already dead (have been so for years) & I already tried to kill myself (sleeping pill overdose), so dying is not really a problem for me. What concerns me is dying painfully or surviving injured. The same mentality goes for the sparring for me. Compared to dying, it is a joke. Also, I use peekaboo, so I am ensured in defense. Eyes & nose are pretty much the only spot that can be hurt easily. As for the offense, it is just a matter of not missing the timing while the defense is ensured.
      You sound like the type of dude that would try shooting up his school.

      The reason you are exhausted is because you are not in shape.
      Keep training=Getting in shape

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      • #13
        Gotta lose weight first. I tried getting in shape, but when I work on losing weight, the built shape fades away (stamina or muscles as I lose weight) anyway. Not to mention having no stamina while dropping weight (I practically eat nothing). So, gotta lose the weight first while maintaining somewhat shape. Then I will work on my physique. Right now, I calculate that I drop weight up to October 31st. Then starting November, I start building the physique with the amount of exercises some people here told me as the minimum. I don't know the expression "shooting up his school" (ESL).

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        • #14
          Originally posted by wilberbear View Post
          Gotta lose weight first. I tried getting in shape, but when I work on losing weight, the built shape fades away (stamina or muscles as I lose weight) anyway. Not to mention having no stamina while dropping weight (I practically eat nothing). So, gotta lose the weight first while maintaining somewhat shape. Then I will work on my physique. Right now, I calculate that I drop weight up to October 31st. Then starting November, I start building the physique with the amount of exercises some people here told me as the minimum. I don't know the expression "shooting up his school" (ESL).
          Featherweight probably isn't the weight for you if it is this hard to make the weight. Try making lightweight or light welterweight by gaining muscle instead of trying to cut. Also, are you at your natural weight right now?

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          • #15
            No, I am overweight. I gotta reduce body fat to 6.9%. Featherweight is the weight for me by my height. It is just that I used to be overweight a lot. That's why I am having trouble making into the weight. Not because I was a normal weight trying to fit into a smaller division.

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            • #16
              Well, if the trainers are any good. They will make you contact drills before sparring and then you will practice that in sparring. That eliminates a lot of the fear and uncertainty especially for a beginner.

              Drills such as blocking the jab. Blocking the 1,2. Blocking the jab and the right hand to the body. Then you have a round where you throw jabs only. Then 1,2 to the head. Then straight punches to the head and body and little by little you get comfortable.

              Now, in a lot of gyms you go straight to sparring without any drills as far as what you need to practice from a technical-tactical stand point before going into sparring. If that's the case in your gym, it might get easier but it will be a much longer process.

              If your coach is open minded. Ask him if you could do contact drills with a partner before sparring so you can get comfortable and much better at anticipating and throwing punches.

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              • #17
                I've never done that contact drill training although I've asked for one at one gym, but my coaches just laughed & ignored at the defense drill. They couldn't sure box a **** when I sparred them. I landed dozens of shots while getting only hit 6 times. Easily could count as I never got punched with my footwork oriented movement while only got attacked once with a machine gun type punching as a sign of getting nowhere, which I blocked all of them. So, technically, I landed dozens (he couldn't block or stop ****) while getting hit none (well, I blocked). If it was a real fight, I won at the beginning of the sparring with my power shot (I hit hard) at his rib, aside from whether I choose to go at his head or not after that if I was serious. Also, they had their own way of boxing & boxing training, and they accepted no boxing outside their own way (I boxed differently from them, and they wanted me to fix it to meet their way, which I didn't want to do). A couple examples are how they enforced square shoulder instead of left shoulder forward, no pushing shoulder when throwing a strike (gotta be sharply from the shoulder), etc. Not to mention how they had a commercial "boxing Kata" program so that you repeat a series of movement hundreds of times until you get to the next series of movements and so on. I hated that gym & training. Not my style. Also, aside from not liking it mentally, I don't agree with their way in efficiency & practicalness. Another unique trait in that gym was how they taught you to "cut off the strikes" (stop the strikes) upon the contact instead of striking through (who doesn't strike through? Marciano? Tyson?).

                For punching, you can work on your own with heavy bag (at least to some extent). For defense, you really need something being thrown at you. I need to & want to train defense more. I want to attain that sensation of being casual breathing & living against the punches if you know what I mean.
                Last edited by wilberbear; 09-13-2015, 09:48 AM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by wilberbear View Post
                  I've never done that contact drill training although I've asked for one sometimes, but my coaches just laughed & ignored at the defense drill. They couldn't sure box a **** when I sparred them. I landed dozens of shots while getting only hit 6 times (easily could count as I never got punched with my footwork oriented movement while only got attacked once with a machine gun type punching as a sign of getting nowhere, which I blocked all of them). If it was a real fight, I won at the beginning of the sparring with my power shot (I hit hard) at his rib, aside from whether I choose to go at his head or not after that if I was serious. For punching, you can work on your own with heavy bag (at least to some extent). For defense, you really need something being thrown at you. I need to & want to train defense more. I want to attain that sensation of being casual breathing & living against the punches if you know what I mean.
                  Why did you just change your post completely? At first you said you can't spar for to save your life now your saying you're the tbe.

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                  • #19
                    I never said that. I was elaborating on what I meant exactly the same except in a shorter sentence. I was saying I hated that gym which didn't give me contact drill & I was saying how that gym's coaches couldn't spar ****. I attended multiple different boxing gyms. Also, I never said I was extremely good in sparring. Just better than that gym. Funny how some gyms are flamboyant in focuses (seriously, when a student asks for a defense drill, why laugh & ignore it instead of doing it anyway or at least explaining "their idea why it is useless" aside from being wrong), mentally rigid in how boxing should be done, commercial (wtf is up with boxing Kata as if Eastern martial arts?).

                    Anyway, I do need to & want to work on some contact drills (defense drills). I want to practice & train responses. I never had an opportunity to do this. In sparring (just had sparrings, no defense drills), you don't really aim to practice responses. For example, you can just change angle & circle instead of waiting for a punch then responding afterward.
                    Last edited by wilberbear; 09-13-2015, 10:01 AM.

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                    • #20
                      I never said that. I was elaborating on what I meant exactly the same except in a shorter sentence. I was saying I hated that gym which didn't give me contact drill & I was saying how that gym's coaches couldn't spar ****. I attended multiple different boxing gyms. Also, I never said I was extremely good in sparring. Just better than that gym. Funny how some gyms are flamboyant in focuses, mentally rigid in how boxing should be done, commercial (wtf is up with boxing Kata as if Eastern martial arts?)
                      Nah man that's not what happened, at first you said you're **** now you're saying you're too good.

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