Egos, Toe Nails and Egg Shells

[Rockin']

Not even worth it:

[nivek535]

im sorry .....
come to vancouver? its dead but its growing... we need people like you sir

come, u need to feel new hope

[Facade]

Do you talk about your own accomplishments in boxing as much in real life as you do on this forum?

It might be smart to just find a different topic of conversation than how many fights have you had. It can quite easily be perceived as or converted to a contest about who has the biggest... If you want to find common interest you can just ask about how somebody liked fighting or whatever, in stead of an 'how many' question which is almost always some kind of competition question.

I might be a bit direct and I don't mean to be offensive, but I notice that virtually every post you make has some kind of reference to your own great boxing ability and knowledge. On a forum that's fine, because who cares. But in real life it can make you a bit difficult. Let's be fair, if you've made yourself impossible within the time span of 1 and a half hours and this has happened repeatedly you have to consider the possibility that it might be you and not them... If you get KO'd first round every time, you're not gonna say it's the gloves or the ring or whatever either.

[Rockin']

Do you talk about your own accomplishments in boxing as much in real life as you do on this forum?

It might be smart to just find a different topic of conversation than how many fights have you had. It can quite easily be perceived as or converted to a contest about who has the biggest... If you want to find common interest you can just ask about how somebody liked fighting or whatever, in stead of an 'how many' question which is almost always some kind of competition question.

I might be a bit direct and I don't mean to be offensive, but I notice that virtually every post you make has some kind of reference to your own great boxing ability and knowledge. On a forum that's fine, because who cares. But in real life it can make you a bit difficult. Let's be fair, if you've made yourself impossible within the time span of 1 and a half hours and this has happened repeatedly you have to consider the possibility that it might be you and not them... If you get KO'd first round every time, you're not gonna say it's the gloves or the ring or whatever either.

your assumptions of me are grand eloquent at best.


I'm not great, never once claimed to be. But if you were to tell me that I don't know this sport than I would simply say that you're mistaken. So, what did you experience in the boxing world yesterday?

[Facade]

Yeah it's an assumption indeed. I can imagine, however, that the amounts of fights one has had, is somehow tied to someone's own perception to teach, to give an opinion, et cetera. It is therefore a possibility that someone is a bit insecure about it. I think it's reasonable to assume that a lot of those people end up teaching so you have a good chance of running into them. In that light questions like that are perhaps better reserved for people that you have good reason to think have similar or more experience than you. Alternatively, you can wait to get asked in stead of starting about it yourself.

In my experience, it is often not a good idea to ask somebody about certain accomplishments, regardless of the field, whenever you get the sense that your own are a lot better. The other person gets insecure, the conversation becomes awkward, etc. Obviously when you have no idea this might be a bit hard.

Anyhow, my general point is that you can perhaps consider that you need to change something in your approach if you run into this repeatedly.

[Rockin']

Yeah it's an assumption indeed. I can imagine, however, that the amounts of fights one has had, is somehow tied to someone's own perception to teach, to give an opinion, et cetera. It is therefore a possibility that someone is a bit insecure about it. I think it's reasonable to assume that a lot of those people end up teaching so you have a good chance of running into them. In that light questions like that are perhaps better reserved for people that you have good reason to think have similar or more experience than you. Alternatively, you can wait to get asked in stead of starting about it yourself.

In my experience, it is often not a good idea to ask somebody about certain accomplishments, regardless of the field, whenever you get the sense that your own are a lot better. The other person gets insecure, the conversation becomes awkward, etc. Obviously when you have no idea this might be a bit hard.

Anyhow, my general point is that you can perhaps consider that you need to change something in your approach if you run into this repeatedly.

I don't cry if he tells me that he had 350+ fights with Olympic experience and a minor pro belt hanging in his show case. Ya know what I do in those cases? I keep my eyes open and listen in hopes of learning something new from the guy because I know that he'll have somthin'. And if he's freely willing to share it than all the better.

Anothers insecurities are not exactly my main concern. Do I suppress the knowledge that I gained because it might hurt his feelings?

In my opinion 2 of his boys had potential but a sharp eye is obviously not watching them because much of their 'stuff' is flawed. Just going through the motions.

The guy of his I worked with had 5 am bouts under his belt. The first thing that I asked was to see him shadowbox, just to see how he moves. Ya know that he worked for over a minute before I stepped in and asked him if he was going to shadowbox in that 16 square foot box that he remained inside of, it seemed to have some power where he had to stay inside of it or something. I pointed out that he was using only 16sq ft of ring when he'll have up to 400 sq ft to work with in his bouts. I instantly got him circling, using the space. Shufflling side to side, rolling backwards, etc just getting the feel of the room available. It's purely basic stuff.

[Biolink]

Most trainers I know are proud to speak of their experience as fighters. I don't care if he was only AM, or a tomato can pro as long as enough real guys stake his claim as a legit trainer.

That guy needs

[Mr.MojoRisin']

You'll most likely have to prove yourself and take a true beginner or as close as you can get to it and teach them some things. If they turn out alright after a few months then you might gain a reputation around the gym as a legit trainer. If not then I don't see you going anywhere training wise with experienced boxers whether amateur or pro. If a new guy came out of the blue at me and tried changing some of my technique and the way I fight, I would want to see some credentials not what he says. Btw do you have a link on boxrec we can look at your pro career?

[Rockin']

You'll most likely have to prove yourself and take a true beginner or as close as you can get to it and teach them some things. If they turn out alright after a few months then you might gain a reputation around the gym as a legit trainer. If not then I don't see you going anywhere training wise with experienced boxers whether amateur or pro. If a new guy came out of the blue at me and tried changing some of my technique and the way I fight, I would want to see some credentials not what he says. Btw do you have a link on boxrec we can look at your pro career?

No to the box rec, my identity I'd prefer private. I didn't do much with the pros. Left real early when a chain of events sent my train roaring in a completely different direction. I got to fight on tv and at large venues, way early goal achieved (I had made the goals at like 15 or 16 years old). I essentially had to be content with that.

With me proving myself to him, his own insecurities blew that thought right out the door. I proved that I know what's what, I believe that it intimidated him. I told him I'm not here to steal your fighters, just to help the kids grow with what I was taught as well as with what he was taught.

I didn't try to change anything at all with his boxers.

I knew what I was I was looking at though. If he doesn't want my help than I save time, effort and gas money each week.

Like I said before, there are other avenues that I can pursue in the sport and that's what I aim to do.

[Rockin']

so me and this guy communicated just a few mins ago.

I got myself banned from his club, LOL, good riddance any way.

The flaws that they don't see are soon going to hurt his boys when they move up to open class. He sees little if any, while I could write a small book on what I saw............ Still descent little fighters though.

Not my problem not my mess.

Best of luck to ya...........