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  • #21
    Originally posted by AddiX View Post
    Your body just doesn't go burning muscle because you did some cardio.

    I'm not advocating running a marathon here. Hiit,jump rope, heavybag, stair machine, even a nice jog, are all fine for cutting some fat.

    Most people either overestimate or underestimate there macros, cardio is a great way to help regulate that.

    This crazy idea that your body will just start eating its own muscle is halarious.
    When you're on a deficit you lose fat and muscle. Mostly fat, but muscle too, resistance training is the best at minimising this muscle loss.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Hype job View Post
      When you're on a deficit you lose fat and muscle. Mostly fat, but muscle too, resistance training is the best at minimising this muscle loss.
      I have no problem with resistance training, my problem is with the trend of telling people not to do cardio.

      Its not a legitimate expectation for everyone to lose weight without cardio. Weight loss isn't one size fits all.

      If your fat than burning weight on just a deficit is easy. If your below 15 % its going to take forever to cut without cardio.

      Why do you think boxers throw themselves in saunas, with sweats on, while jump roping and not eating for days?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by AddiX View Post
        I have no problem with resistance training, my problem is with the trend of telling people not to do cardio.

        Its not a legitimate expectation for everyone to lose weight without cardio. Weight loss isn't one size fits all.

        If your fat than burning weight on just a deficit is easy. If your below 15 % its going to take forever to cut without cardio.

        Why do you think boxers throw themselves in saunas, with sweats on, while jump roping and not eating for days?
        I disagree. and the last is usually because they're trying to cut a drastic amount of weight.

        Physical activity comprises a small % of energy expenditure, around the same as your brains functioning, exercise in general burns a tiny % of calories relative to other processes in your body.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Hype job View Post
          I disagree. and the last is usually because they're trying to cut a drastic amount of weight.

          Physical activity comprises a small % of energy expenditure, around the same as your brains functioning, exercise in general burns a tiny % of calories relative to other processes in your body.
          Below 12-13 % your vascular, for most people who aren't teenagers, dropping weight once you hit vascular is ridiculously hard without cardio.

          As for he second part, it really depends on the kind of physical activity. But yes your body consumes a lot just to do it's daily functions.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by AddiX View Post
            Below 12-13 % your vascular, for most people who aren't teenagers, dropping weight once you hit vascular is ridiculously hard without cardio.

            As for he second part, it really depends on the kind of physical activity. But yes your body consumes a lot just to do it's daily functions.
            Well I disagree. The deficit is all that matters, whether it's diet or exercise induced is irrelevant. Diet induced is more practical as you can eat foods that will keep hunger at bay, exercise will burn calories but make you hungry.

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            • #26
              I was being a bit overly dramatic in my choice of words with the 'endangering your health' part. What I meant is the point when you start eating below your BMR. In my experience fat loss is hardly linear. The longer you go, the slower it gets and the closer you get to your BMR. In those situations, which are quite common i might add, it might be an idea to increase your activity in stead of eating even less.

              I think cardio can be a tactic and I feel the fear of losing muscle is often being a bit overstated. As long as people remember that cardio is always supplementary and cannot in any way replace weight training, they should be all right. If you want to lose only fat then the calorie deficit and your weight training is the foundation. I've tried to make clear in my previous post that there really is no definitive consensus on the place of cardio.
              Last edited by Facade; 06-04-2015, 03:57 AM.

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              • #27
                a lot of broscience in this thread..

                http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156380183 - start from there

                also, check this out www.leangains.com - intermittent fasting is the best way to retain muscle mass while losing fat imo.

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