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  • #11
    Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
    Ive been told that beginners do the worst thing by bracing for a punch by tensing up their jaw and neck etc at impact, this makes the force of the punch more violently smash the brain around inside the skull.

    A pro for example Naseem hamed rolls with the punch and says loose to minimise the impact on his brain and face/head in general.


    However they say the worst is when you dont see it coming because you dont have a chance to brace for it!?

    I thought bracing for it was the worst thing you can do and staying limp at the head/ neck allows you to go with the flow? So why is a punch you dont see coming the worst?


    Is it because going with the flow is different than being blindsided by a punch one is going with the flow slowing the impact, the other is having you head accelerated from a stand still to a really high speed which means the impact wasnt slowed at all.


    its' not only that you can't roll the punch you can't see, you're probably punching yourself, and will run right into it.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
      Ive been told that beginners do the worst thing by bracing for a punch by tensing up their jaw and neck etc at impact, this makes the force of the punch more violently smash the brain around inside the skull.
      A pro for example Naseem hamed rolls with the punch and says loose to minimise the impact on his brain and face/head in general.


      However they say the worst is when you dont see it coming because you dont have a chance to brace for it!?

      I thought bracing for it was the worst thing you can do and staying limp at the head/ neck allows you to go with the flow? So why is a punch you dont see coming the worst?


      Is it because going with the flow is different than being blindsided by a punch one is going with the flow slowing the impact, the other is having you head accelerated from a stand still to a really high speed which means the impact wasnt slowed at all.
      Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
      roll wit' da shots..... but still if you don't know it's coming than you don't know it's coming and it will greatly amplify it's affects on you.

      it's just much better off if your brain is able to 'brace' for impact. Your brain will prepare for impact and already have you locked in a bombshelter awaiting the bomb instead of leaving you standing outside on the lawn.

      train the third eye
      It's posts like this that make me not want to spar anymore. I used to spar 2-3 times per month but I haven't in about 4 months. I'm not sure I'll spar again with the thought of brain damage looming in my mind

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
        It's posts like this that make me not want to spar anymore. I used to spar 2-3 times per month but I haven't in about 4 months. I'm not sure I'll spar again with the thought of brain damage looming in my mind
        It is what it is.

        Either you want it or you don't.

        I loved sparring or maybe I just craved the adrenalin. Either way, you never had to ask me twice to get gloved up.........

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
          It is what it is.

          Either you want it or you don't.

          I loved sparring or maybe I just craved the adrenalin. Either way, you never had to ask me twice to get gloved up.........
          I think if you do your neck exercises well enough and practice your defense enough, you greatly reduce the possibility of significant brain damage especially if you are in the lighter divisions.

          If anything the western world is too namby pamby, not too dangerous. If its allowed chances are its pretty damn safe.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
            If anything the western world is too namby pamby, not too dangerous. If its allowed chances are its pretty damn safe.
            I agree with you about the western world but boxing is the exception to the rule. If you started boxing and didn't expect there to be brain trauma/damage...then I don't think you need to worry about anything actually being damaged

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            • #16
              Originally posted by PitbullParsons View Post
              I agree with you about the western world but boxing is the exception to the rule. If you started boxing and didn't expect there to be brain trauma/damage...then I don't think you need to worry about anything actually being damaged
              degrees of damage, some brain damage is fine you can recover from it, it the guys that do it day in day out that get hurt the most because the consistency of the blows to the head dont give the brain enough time to repair itself

              and just sparring vs a pro boxer that does it full time, is a big difference

              get with it dummy
              Last edited by AlexKid; 05-12-2015, 01:34 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
                degrees of damage, some brain damage is fine you can recover from it, it the guys that do it day in day out that get hurt the most because the consistency of the blows to the head dont give the brain enough time to repair itself

                and just sparring vs a pro boxer that does it full time, is a big difference

                get with it dummy
                It's clearly too late for you. Half of what you're saying is just reiterating common sense, as if that proves some degree of knowledge. But, saying things like training your neck and allowing time to heal somehow nullify the significance of cerebral damage is foolish at best. You're fooling yourself with your own junk science.

                Sparring causes damage. It's most obvious that the more damage you take the worse it'll be. It's up to each individual to decide what sparring is worth to them. The best you can do is wear good headgear and be smart/defensively minded while training. Normal training isn't likely to diminish your quality of life but those who have had tough sparring sessions know that even the short-term affects are pretty obvious, like the tingling and hazy thinking. You just have to decide if a long term risk is worth it for you and adjust your training accordingly.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                  It's clearly too late for you. Half of what you're saying is just reiterating common sense, as if that proves some degree of knowledge. But, saying things like training your neck and allowing time to heal somehow nullify the significance of cerebral damage is foolish at best. You're fooling yourself with your own junk science.

                  Sparring causes damage. It's most obvious that the more damage you take the worse it'll be. It's up to each individual to decide what sparring is worth to them. The best you can do is wear good headgear and be smart/defensively minded while training. Normal training isn't likely to diminish your quality of life but those who have had tough sparring sessions know that even the short-term affects are pretty obvious, like the tingling and hazy thinking. You just have to decide if a long term risk is worth it for you and adjust your training accordingly.
                  head gear makes brain damage worse, ****** troll or just plain ******?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
                    degrees of damage, some brain damage is fine you can recover from it, it the guys that do it day in day out that get hurt the most because the consistency of the blows to the head dont give the brain enough time to repair itself

                    and just sparring vs a pro boxer that does it full time, is a big difference

                    get with it dummy
                    I never said anything about long term or short term. I said brain damage. That covers either. Clearly you are too ****** to figure out that I was saying there is brain damage in boxing because you get punched in the head and should know that coming in.

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