How long to lose muscle on purpose from boxing?

[Brownie]

Hey everyone,

For the last three years, I have been going great at boxing , training six days a week on just about every week of the year. I weigh 64kg at walk around weight (around 140lb) at 5'5. However, I would like to experiment with gaining size for the purpose of other sports, probably aiming for 80kg. This means that I will probably dedicate all of my training towards upping my strength and abilities in the sports I'm experimenting/competing in. Depending on how this goes, I could spend at least a couple of years entirely away from boxing, but still keeping in shape cardio wise while gaining strength and mass.

My question is, If I were to reach 80kg in a couple of years (with a crossfit-styled training routine) how long would it take me to lose that 15kg (30lb), should I opt out, go back to fighting weight by doing my original 2hrs a day, 6 per wk routine? And also, would that hiatus, along with the weight gain then loss, make my boxing ability completely back to square one where I started 3 years ago? Thanks to all/any replies!

[jas]

Depends on how much you eat and train?

[Rockin']

people build mass to try to make other people think that they are bad and that they can fight.

why not just stay natural and truly learn how to fight.

I'll take true skill over muscle mass every day of the week.

[Brownie]

people build mass to try to make other people think that they are bad and that they can fight.

why not just stay natural and truly learn how to fight.

I'll take true skill over muscle mass every day of the week.

I do too, and that's why I want to have the option to come back to boxing. However, I'm young and don't want to end up thinking what could have been in the other sports. I know this probably doesn't mean much in boxing, but the mass I will be gaining will be entirely for functional reasons.

[PainfromUkraine]

people build mass to try to make other people think that they are bad and that they can fight.

why not just stay natural and truly learn how to fight.

I'll take true skill over muscle mass every day of the week.

Why not have both?

If you have a basis of a good skill-set, adding additional mass doesn't necessarily hurt at all.

What Rockin' is saying is true, having muscle for show is pointless really, and real fighting skills are far better to possess, but no harm in trying to up your mass, especially if you are not an active fighter in that particular class of weight. Feel free to experiment.

In the past 3-4 months or so i've gone from around 174lbs to approximately 190lbs with most of that being lean mass, although I don't physically look particularly different or much bigger. I don't feel that the mass has hindered me at all in terms of my boxing either, in fact I feel stronger and technically I feel as good as I ever did lighter. I suppose it depends a lot on your natural frame.

[Brownie]

Thanks for the replies. I'm just curious, was there a particular reason you gained that extra 15lb, or did you just change up your training or something like that? Thanks

[PainfromUkraine]

Thanks for the replies. I'm just curious, was there a particular reason you gained that extra 15lb, or did you just change up your training or something like that? Thanks

Well, I felt that I wanted some more power in my punches and wanted to experiment adding bulk to my frame to see how that would affect my movement or stamina and the potential drawbacks or benefits it would give as a whole. Overall, I don't think I have had any negative feedback as of yet. I feel bigger and stronger but my speed and stamina hasn't got worse.

Also, that and I want to fight at heavyweight, or at least have an option of being in between some weight classes. I'm 6ft 2, so i'd perhaps be a bit small as a modern heavy, and could use that height to my advantage as a fighter in a lower class, but I'm just using this period to experiment what I feel my best weight is. I had to have some breaks from boxing due to injuries so I did a lot of weight training in this period, but easing my way back into boxing I feel good.

I repeat as well, I don't look particularly different either, so I have a potential to gain far more mass if I want to. My target is to have a walk around weight of around 205lbs, cutting down to around 195-200.

[Brownie]

Oh cool thanks. That gives me more optimism about coming back down, and good luck with your experimenting. Hope it works well

As for the original question, I just found out an obvious answer I should have know: 3500 calories is one pound, so if I create a defecit of 500 a week, then I should lose a pound of muscle every week. So I guess that means it could take me, at the quickest, around 30 weeks if I do gain that weight.
Thanks for the replies everyone.

[Marios GC]

Hey man, listen.. You want to add 15kg muscles...
A human being (male) a man at his prime, can add maximum 3kg of clean muscles in one year of hard training and healthy diet.
So you need hypothetically 5 years with sucrificies to reach your goal.
LETS COME BACK TO REALLITY! you can add 15 kg to your weight fast but they wont be clean muscles in any way. That means that your whole game will change. You will become stronger but slower and generally another person as an athlete.

Good luck

[Facade]

It is not necessary to lose the muscle as it is is very unlikely that you'll be gaining 15kg of pure muscle mass, unless you are on something. You're probably better off trying to lose the fat. (you do that by keeping weight training intensity and creating a calorie deficit while keeping track of your macros etc.)

If you want to lose muscle, in general, you just have to stop your weight training and create a deficit. Do realize, however, that weight or fat loss isn't linear so your calculations are a bit optimistic.