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  • Whats the best way to slip?

    There are many ways to slip, bend 1 leg, bend forward, bend at the side like Tyson, simply rotate the hips, or combinations of the above, I think ive seen other ways too, guys moving their head in a diagonal straight line, guys moving their head first and then letting the body catch up and others.

    Whats the best way to slip for me a southpaw in a fairly bladed stance? To avoid the jab and cross. I find the jab hard to slip because its a very fast punch and I have to move further to slip it than with the cross. Also I find it hard to bend that way if bending at the hips/waist because its neither forward or directly to the side its like this awkward cross of both?

    At the moment I slip by bending 1 knee and rotating my hips, if I slip left and then immediately slip right my head goes from left to right in a horizontal straight line, this feels and looks really bad like a fantastic way to get knocked out, so is it wrong? Can you only slip left and right 1 after the other with different methods?
    Last edited by AlexKid; 12-19-2014, 01:29 PM.

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    You typically don't want to slip to the inside since it leaves you open to their other hand. My trainer has me rotate my opposite shoulder forwards while rotating my torso in that direction, it leaves you coiled up to throw a hard punch.

    So from a southpaw stance if you slip a jab to the outside you rotate your body like you are throwing a straight left so your left shoulder is forwards and protects your chin. This position is now great for throwing a right hook to the head or body. For slipping a right hand from southpaw stance you keep your right shoulder forwards while slipping outside.

    Mike Tyson is a great example for slipping since he did it so well and was aggressive about following up afterwards.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZzMPsm6c4

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    • #3
      Originally posted by HedonisticFrog View Post
      You typically don't want to slip to the inside since it leaves you open to their other hand. My trainer has me rotate my opposite shoulder forwards while rotating my torso in that direction, it leaves you coiled up to throw a hard punch.

      So from a southpaw stance if you slip a jab to the outside you rotate your body like you are throwing a straight left so your left shoulder is forwards and protects your chin. This position is now great for throwing a right hook to the head or body. For slipping a right hand from southpaw stance you keep your right shoulder forwards while slipping outside.

      Mike Tyson is a great example for slipping since he did it so well and was aggressive about following up afterwards.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZzMPsm6c4
      That's brilliant thanks mate!!

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      • #4
        I use to just make it habit to slip the jab and automatically be ready to slip the next punch, after two slips I would always roll under.

        I dunno, it just world well for me that way.

        Most boxers follow a jab with either another jab and a cross, or a cross and right hook.

        The same head movement rhythm worked against most opponents, until I was in with the more elite guys, who knew how to change there timing up with there combinations.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AddiX View Post
          I use to just make it habit to slip the jab and automatically be ready to slip the next punch, after two slips I would always roll under.

          I dunno, it just world well for me that way.

          Most boxers follow a jab with either another jab and a cross, or a cross and right hook.

          The same head movement rhythm worked against most opponents, until I was in with the more elite guys, who knew how to change there timing up with there combinations.
          That's a great point to bring up. You can dodge a lot of punches by knowing what punches most likely will follow what was already thrown or what you throw. A good example of this is a lead straight right followed by rolling to the right to dodge the left hook they try to counter with. Floyd does this a lot, and Manny Pacquiaou does it with a lead left straight.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AddiX View Post
            I use to just make it habit to slip the jab and automatically be ready to slip the next punch, after two slips I would always roll under.

            I dunno, it just world well for me that way.

            Most boxers follow a jab with either another jab and a cross, or a cross and right hook.

            The same head movement rhythm worked against most opponents, until I was in with the more elite guys, who knew how to change there timing up with there combinations.
            Addix you still training?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by AddiX View Post
              I use to just make it habit to slip the jab and automatically be ready to slip the next punch, after two slips I would always roll under.

              I dunno, it just world well for me that way.

              Most boxers follow a jab with either another jab and a cross, or a cross and right hook.

              The same head movement rhythm worked against most opponents, until I was in with the more elite guys, who knew how to change there timing up with there combinations.
              That is also brilliant thanks a lot mate awesome tip!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rockin'
                The best way....? When he tries to punch you in your face..... move your face.

                You want to get good? Than you have to spar and spar and spar some more.

                You gotta train your mind to be cool while you're in the trenches. If you can keep your wits about you it will give you time to train the eyes.

                It's like the lab rat and the light. They keep a rat in a cage in the dark and whenever they switch the light on the rat gets shocked by an electric current and he jumps from the shock of electricity. They do this 1000's of times again and again. So then they unhook the electricity so that the rat does not get shocked, they turn the light on again and the rat still jumps, every time they do it. Same thing with the fighters; get caught with a hook and you're slipping a right without even thinking about it. Get caught with a right and your getting under a hook, it happens instantly.

                Train your eyes with a cool mind, your '3rd eye' will be trained with real experience only.

                James Toney has a well trained 3rd eye ........ Rockin'
                That's great advice rockin. By the way I'm curious since your sig says long live Detroit boxing have you ever trained or sparred with well known deteoit boxers like james toney? If so, what were they like?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rockin'
                  James Toney I saw some clips or something of him but heard some incredible things about him as a fighter. Detroit's a strong boxing town with in depth knowledge and the fighters to display it. You'd have to be crazy to want to throw fists against those kinda gyms/fighters.

                  But I honestly have no clue as to what this drop step Dempsey jab is.......... Rockin'
                  Yeah this Dempsey drop step jab seems a bit outdated in it's explanation. Hell, he even calls it a jolt. I reckon it's just a quick step jab under a different name. But people get surprisingly hung up on the technicalities of it. Personally I would just prefer working away in the gym shadowboxing, hitting the bags and pads and sparring. Because if you've got a good trainer then you'll learn quick if you have the right mindset. Even when it comes to slipping like the op is asking about I would watch what the good fighters were doing when they slipped in the gym and maybe try it a few times in shadowboxing. But I would wait until one of the coaches tried it on the pads. If you have a good coach then they will be able to determine your style after a while. I personally bend at the knees because it gives me the balance to still let off shots. But like you say sparring is the only way you'll find out it works. Sometimes if the ring is full we will do some light technical spars without headgear. So slipping is one of the things you practice as well as bodyshots.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bronsky View Post
                    Addix you still training?
                    Nah man, I'm 30 now, work, eat, girlfriend, sleep, lift weights, is my life.

                    I never meant to quit training, but as I got more into weight lifting, my goals became different, and all the work it takes to maintain a body/mind built for boxing just became to much work.

                    I never realized while training boxing how much work it was until I stopped. I miss sparring though a lot, def miss the gym talk too.

                    Enjoy it while you can, you can't do it forever.
                    Last edited by AddiX; 12-20-2014, 08:34 AM.

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