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  • #31
    Originally posted by Soju View Post
    Cosign. One of my coaches also swears by this over traditional high rep ab work and I've become a convert.



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    It's good to see coaches employing this method now.

    My old coach is an old school sit up and leg raise guy and does the occasional medicine ball twist thing with a partner mainly for the core. He doesn't like ANY apparatus.

    And he's normally right because MOST of them are gimmicks, but this one, which seems so simple, certainly is the real deal.

    That's awesome!

    The high rep ab work is a relic from the old school, middle rep is fine, but the idea of doing thousands of reps of low tension exercises DOES work but not the same intensity or functionality.

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    • #32
      yea, i have seen videos of mayweather jr and bernard hopkins using the ab roller

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
        It's good to see coaches employing this method now.

        My old coach is an old school sit up and leg raise guy and does the occasional medicine ball twist thing with a partner mainly for the core. He doesn't like ANY apparatus.

        And he's normally right because MOST of them are gimmicks, but this one, which seems so simple, certainly is the real deal.

        That's awesome!

        The high rep ab work is a relic from the old school, middle rep is fine, but the idea of doing thousands of reps of low tension exercises DOES work but not the same intensity or functionality.
        if those 1000 reps are composed 50 reps of 20 diffrent ab exercises done back to back, its not necessiarly a bad thing.

        the ab roller is quite good though as are the windshield wipers that frog recommended.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
          if those 1000 reps are composed 50 reps of 20 diffrent ab exercises done back to back, its not necessiarly a bad thing.

          the ab roller is quite good though as are the windshield wipers that frog recommended.
          Yeah I used to do something like those too,

          kind of like always being on the small of your back while you bring one had across your body and twist while you sit up while simultaneously bring the opposite leg up too, always keeping both feet and hands off the floor and then the other side the same and doing it repeatedly.

          Those were some of the best floor exercises.

          But yeah, in my opinion, it all works, but I find the economy of the ab roller to be superior and the other benefits/effects/protection to be also better.

          You must train the core, but you only have so much time and even if your a top pro/ammy, so much energy to train, which you must concentrate much on overall skill and athleticism. So economy is very important.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
            Yeah I used to do something like those too,

            kind of like always being on the small of your back while you bring one had across your body and twist while you sit up while simultaneously bring the opposite leg up too, always keeping both feet and hands off the floor and then the other side the same and doing it repeatedly.

            Those were some of the best floor exercises.

            But yeah, in my opinion, it all works, but I find the economy of the ab roller to be superior and the other benefits/effects/protection to be also better.

            You must train the core, but you only have so much time and even if your a top pro/ammy, so much energy to train, which you must concentrate much on overall skill and athleticism. So economy is very important.
            I find the ab roller causes shoulder injuries if i over do it.

            situps really dont take much out of me, nor do they take much time, i do a set of 150-200 every day before my shower and i barely even notice i do situps.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              manny doesn't know sh#T about getting ready for a pro boxing match, bro.
              Not a damned thing...

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              • #37
                What has worked for me best is heavy resistance low rep (well 6-10, but usually 8) machines.

                There is this serious ab crunch machine at the gym, kind of looks like this but the leg part moves so it allows you to bring your elbows to your knees, you kind of roll into a ball during full contraction.



                Put the seat as low as you can to get a full extension and stack on that weight...8 reps 3 sets, 3x a week for 4 weeks and that thing transformed by abs, well the superficial abs.

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                • #38
                  The Power Wheel. Awesome apparatus!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
                    I find the ab roller causes shoulder injuries if i over do it.

                    situps really dont take much out of me, nor do they take much time, i do a set of 150-200 every day before my shower and i barely even notice i do situps.
                    I used to do sit ups too. I didn't experience any major injury from them myself but when I did them very strict I could feel the pressure bending my spine. MAny health professionals disapprove and many athletes do injure their back through them, particularly in the long term.

                    One thing I want to mention here though is the fact you do 200 of them, there's relatively little tension, it's mainly endurance now and the fact you are not sore at all means you are fully used to them now, nothing much more to gain. Some ardent pro boxers do a thousand or more sit ups straight. In my opinion it's outdated. Still works but there are better. I just feel personally it has little relevance for boxing.

                    Having said all that, regarding your comment about the ab roller. It does put pressure on the shoulder joint if you don't work up to it properly. It can be a source of injury. I think you can perform them and maintain a healthy shoulder joint if care is taken with progression. But yes, this is a factor that has to be taken into account also.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Banderivets View Post
                      What has worked for me best is heavy resistance low rep (well 6-10, but usually 8) machines.

                      There is this serious ab crunch machine at the gym, kind of looks like this but the leg part moves so it allows you to bring your elbows to your knees, you kind of roll into a ball during full contraction.



                      Put the seat as low as you can to get a full extension and stack on that weight...8 reps 3 sets, 3x a week for 4 weeks and that thing transformed by abs, well the superficial abs.
                      Tried it years ago. Work's your abs against tension in a neutral position which is somewhat good. But it also heavily involves the hip flexors in a way that doesn't serve any functional purpose and works the core in combination with the arms and shoulder joint as well in a 90 degree position. It neither provides the stretch or spinal erector benefits either.

                      I'd prefer to perform intensive floor exercises than this.

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