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    Hi everyone. Before I start, I just wanted to clarify that I absolutely understand that there is no substitute to actually training with a coach and sparring, especially for defence etc.

    My problem is this, I'd like to get into amateur boxing and fight but I'm already late for this being in my late 20s, due to illness and living abroad it has been impossible since my early 20s. I've just moved to London and go twice a week to two amateur boxing clubs, the amount of correction they give you for technique is minimal and not nearly enough to make fast progress, they will only take you on further if they see potential. Furthermore I am often traveling with work.

    So my question is this, with regards to learning the basics and proper technique , i.e. correct movement of feet, not leaning in or forward when throwing punches, sequences for punching, keeping elbows in, twisting the punch out and covering your chin with your shoulder, not bouncing grounded movement etc. etc. Is there a comprehensive DVD preferably that would take me through step by step with exercises and instructions through all the basics?

    Just as an example, I taught myself breakdancing and amateur gymnastics when I was a teenager from DVDs and watching videos with a focus on technique so I have done something like this before. In fact I got more out of doing this on my own than group lessons and without it I would not have been able to progress to training with a crew and eventually taking part in bboy competitions and such. I was really very good, very technical and had solid foundation which most breakdancers in the UK actually lack.

    Alas in break dancing you do not have an unpredictable opponent. I also don't have the time like I used to, to study countless youtube videos and obscure material. I also don't have access to the internet all the time.

    Perhaps there is a comprehensive and solid DVD boxing course that I can study and just work with everyday to build that solid technique and accelerate my progress. I'm also getting a boxing bag installed in my basement (in the next month however) and requisitioning a friend of mine to box with me or teach him what I already know.

    This is all with a view of progressing fast into actual amateur club boxing, sparring and actually getting into the ring. I do conditioning every morning so that aspect is covered.

    So if anyone has suggestions I would really appreciate it!

  • #2
    Tbh going to two seperate clubs is not a bad idea. As for being in your late 20s I've seen plenty of guys fight after a year of training in their late 20s. How frequently do you go to these gyms? They don't really pay much attention to you for the first couple of months.

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    • #3
      I've started going twice a week once to each, because that is the most I can go. However there are weeks when I am not in London.

      It just feels like I am not making progress really, or it's so slow I could be there for years. I've done some boxing in the past years ago for around 6 months and felt then as well that I was stuck in a rut.

      Hence why I want to nail solid foundation and technique so I can progress quicker.

      There must be a bible for boxing technique or something..

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      • #4
        Originally posted by koolio View Post
        I've started going twice a week once to each, because that is the most I can go. However there are weeks when I am not in London.

        It just feels like I am not making progress really, or it's so slow I could be there for years. I've done some boxing in the past years ago for around 6 months and felt then as well that I was stuck in a rut.

        Hence why I want to nail solid foundation and technique so I can progress quicker.

        There must be a bible for boxing technique or something..
        I think you're definitely going frequently enough but do the coaches know you are at separate clubs? They may just think you are going 2. Days a week and may not be dedicated enough. I trained 6 months ago and got somewhat stuck in a rut but I was in the middle if nowhere. In London most clubs will give you a solid foundation if you stick to it and show you are dedicated. It may be a good idea to stick to just one club.

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        • #5
          I think you're definitely going frequently enough but do the coaches know you are at separate clubs? They may just think you are going 2. Days a week and may not be dedicated enough. I trained 6 months ago and got somewhat stuck in a rut but I was in the middle if nowhere. In London most clubs will give you a solid foundation if you stick to it and show you are dedicated. It may be a good idea to stick to just one club.
          Each club has only one night a week. Not a lot imo. Whichever club chooses to take me on further first will be the one I go with.

          I am training hard and really want to crunch a year into 4 months. Don't have time to waste so to speak I turn 30 next year. Hence why I would love to nail a solid foundation, and progress from there.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by koolio View Post
            Each club has only one night a week. Not a lot imo. Whichever club chooses to take me on further first will be the one I go with.

            I am training hard and really want to crunch a year into 4 months. Don't have time to waste so to speak I turn 30 next year. Hence why I would love to nail a solid foundation, and progress from there.
            Well I'm sorry but those clubs can't be competitive if they are only open one night a week. They don't sound legit to me. Look up the abae website and see what registered clubs are in London. Those clubs are the ones you want to look for.

            No club will let you spar or compete without working with you for a small while no matter how good your foundation is. While there are lots of good guides on the internet on the basics you can only develop your style from being in the gym. If these clubs are only open one night a week then there's no way you can learn even if they take you on.

            Look up the clubs listed on abae and choose from there. Here in Scotland we have a similar organisation which is useful for finding good clubs. Just be sure to do your research on them

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            • #7
              Well I'm sorry but those clubs can't be competitive if they are only open one night a week. They don't sound legit to me. Look up the abae website and see what registered clubs are in London. Those clubs are the ones you want to look for.

              No club will let you spar or compete without working with you for a small while no matter how good your foundation is. While there are lots of good guides on the internet on the basics you can only develop your style from being in the gym. If these clubs are only open one night a week then there's no way you can learn even if they take you on.

              Look up the clubs listed on abae and choose from there. Here in Scotland we have a similar organisation which is useful for finding good clubs. Just be sure to do your research on them
              Wuckoo please I know you are trying to help but you are barking up the wrong tree..

              They are ABA clubs, two of the best in London in fact without mentioning names. They only take beginners on once a week and I met guys there who had been going once a week for a year or more. They then decide if they want to take you further or never.

              I cannot wait a year to train just once a week in each club. I'd like to progress as fast as possible.

              I cannot see how difficult it would be to learn what I know so far from a DVD or something, so long as key factors and things to watch out and be aware of in terms of poor form and technique are made clear.

              I imagine in this way, training in clubs as much as possible, studying DVDs and books and practicing on my own and with a friend and a bag I'll progress the fastest. I am determined to do it, and going to each club twice a week (with gaps when I'm abroad) is just not going to make it happen.

              So having said all this anyone know of any good material to learn solid foundation and technique on your own?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by koolio View Post
                Wuckoo please I know you are trying to help but you are barking up the wrong tree..

                They are ABA clubs, two of the best in London in fact without mentioning names. They only take beginners on once a week and I met guys there who had been going once a week for a year or more. They then decide if they want to take you further or never.

                I cannot wait a year to train just once a week in each club. I'd like to progress as fast as possible.

                I cannot see how difficult it would be to learn what I know so far from a DVD or something, so long as key factors and things to watch out and be aware of in terms of poor form and technique are made clear.

                I imagine in this way, training in clubs as much as possible, studying DVDs and books and practicing on my own and with a friend and a bag I'll progress the fastest. I am determined to do it, and going to each club twice a week (with gaps when I'm abroad) is just not going to make it happen.

                So having said all this anyone know of any good material to learn solid foundation and technique on your own?
                I'm sorry I can't help you then. Those aba clubs are pretty dumb if that's the case, in Scotland you can go all 4 days regardless so that you can learn. I really can't say that there is a material which can fully prepare you for the sport.

                Expertboxing has a lot of very good articles which will at least point you in the right direction so you can start there. I appreciate your sincerity and your drive though. But there doesn't seem to be any way I can help you if that's how the clubs work over there

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                • #9
                  The most comprehensive at home videos I've found the most helpful so far on Youtube is Don Familton's superior boxing(Be sure to click the Youtube button there are 4 more lengthy videos in the set with him talking about defense, combinations, and actual sparring tactics). His videos and knowledge are gold.



                  There's also the title boxing videos I thought were pretty good. The one's with Russ Anber at least(They even have David Lemieux in it as a child. If you like click the button there are other videos in the set).



                  From actually going to the gym everyday I found these DVD's to be the most comprehensive, but obviously nothing beats someone critiquing your technique live.

                  I've heard another trainer by the name of Kenny Weldon had some great instructional videos named "Becoming a better boxer(Vol. 1-3)as well.
                  Last edited by Biolink; 09-04-2014, 10:30 AM.

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                  • #10
                    I'm sorry I can't help you then. Those aba clubs are pretty dumb if that's the case, in Scotland you can go all 4 days regardless so that you can learn. I really can't say that there is a material which can fully prepare you for the sport.
                    God I wish I could box in a club 4 days a week. That would be great.

                    I think it's a universal thing, clubs up in the North of England (Manchester) wouldn't even take me at 23 because I wasn't 16 and thus had a low chance of making them money. So what I'm getting in London isn't bad.

                    Biolink, thanks for those I will check them out.

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