Bodybuilding to Boxing?

[gaz26]

This guy think Roy was fast due to Roids, and that he shouldn't lead with the left hook.

I think Roy knows best, the truth is when his speed started to fade he should have quit, Roy wouldn't have been so good if he used the jab more, and boxed textbook, because Roy isnt normal and the text books dont apply to him as much. Whats optimal for a normal person isnt optimal for a super fast guy.

Don't mistake this tool for an intelligent guy.

Ignorant dumbasses like u is why i couldn't be bothered for a year....Roy went down hill because lost his reflexes whether from drugs, naturally declined or both...he started looking average, getting countered because of his lack of basic boxing fundamentals...end lesson, stop being a jealous butt hurt loser, ur mom got her titt out, must be dinner time run along now

[gaz26]

I was first, me me i did it first...shut up clown, bet u failed high school...who was talking to you anyway?? someones is asking for advice not a sad jealous little troll who hates the fact he isn't as intelligent as the other 99% of the forum users and for sum sad reaosn b1tchez because some put an educated reply... 2 posts back after staying from boxings special needs forum and the spaz's are out already..laters cry baby:bukkake:

[Zach778]

I really appreciate the info man, that was alot of good insight if you have a email id like to chat more

[Zach778]

Hey u have to look t it a few ways, does the extra mass add to power?? does it hinder speed??? will losing the weight affect ur punch resistance??? do you as a natural middle weight feel as though you can take punches of naturally bigger guys for example light heavy weight?? i'd say that super middle or light heavy is more of a target range now, can't see losing enough to get to middle beign any good for u, it depends on ur muscle gains..are they mostly sarcoplasmic or myofibrillar?? sarcoplasmic gains are moslt glycogen uptake and water and that is the muscle that is lost quickly and easily gained back, ppl think it is hydration levels that are manipulated when losing or gaining 20lbs to make weight and gain an advantage, while it is true, it is infact using stored muscle glycogen that plays the biggest part (though 1 gram of stored glycogen holds around 4 grams of stored water in the muscle dehydrating won't lose as much weight or mass as muscle glycogen depletion and dehydration) this means u could lose 25lbs if u know what u are doing and have the muscle mass to lose that amount, weigh in at 175lbs, then carb load/hyperhydrate all the way back up top 200lbs and go for the weight advantage, the opposite would be lose weight and walk around a lot lighter but that would more than likely mean depleted glycogen and hydration and effect punch resistance think Roy jones losing muscle and going back down, it ruined him, plus he was using compounds....it depends on how long you have been carrying the muscle, do you have to force you body to keep the weight on by eating a lot more than the average person would....myofibrillar muscle is actual thickening and growing of muscle fibres and occurs from more of a power lifting and will stick to u and refuse to budge unless u really starve ur self over a long period , while power lifting and bodybuilding style training add both myo and sarco gains, body building tends to add more sarco gains, and power lifting more dense/solid gains not as bloated/pumped puffy/watery gains....for example if u have a week or two off weights when u body build u lose a lot of size immediately that is the drop off in stored glycogen and water, lose that fullness, pumped feeling and look, but power lifters rep ranges and stress on the muscle while heavier isn't as intense, the gains are long term actual tissue thickening and will notice hardly any lost fullness or size over the course a a short period from training.....also speed, endurance might be negatively affecting u, maybe it improves your endurance, you have to consider things like that but i'd focus on the ability to lose and gain back the majority of what u have, i don't know if ur lean 200lbs or carrying 18% BF.....but u might not have to drop down to a walking around Middle weight and risk losing strength , punch resistance etc...does it add power?? do u hit harder since u gained weight, adding speed to current mass adds power, or adding mass to current speed adds power, but we know that isn't the full story ( acceleration/ kinetic energy) i will say if i was a natural middle weight i would not want to gain muscle and go fighting natural 200lb'ers, not just taking the punches of them, but can't see the gains increasing my fire power enough to make it a level playing field...sorry about the long winded reply

i really appreciate the info man, i can tell you im about 11% BF i was a collegiate FB player so i wasnt a scrub lol. If you have a email id love to chat more

[Spray_resistant]

Tried something like this, I always was into weight lifting but trained the local boxing gym as a teenager for a year then wanted to try it again at 23. I was about the same weight as I am back up to now mid 190s. What I did wasn't drastic just started eating smaller meals because the goal wasn't to pack on muscle mass, did the boxing training, no more weights, did alot of running and lost over 20lbs in 3 months or so without really making an effort to.

Didn't workout though, felt weak and tired all of the time I had no power or stamina so no sure what went wrong its not as if I put and effort into losing muscle I just ate to not gain mass and changed my training habits, would have been better off with my Cruiserweight body to be honest.

So I don't know what the right was to do it is or if in general this can be done correctly so someone can transition from a muscled up body to a lean fast boxer build without any negative effects.

[AlexKid]

Ignorant dumbasses like u is why i couldn't be bothered for a year....Roy went down hill because lost his reflexes whether from drugs, naturally declined or both...he started looking average, getting countered because of his lack of basic boxing fundamentals...end lesson, stop being a jealous butt hurt loser, ur mom got her titt out, must be dinner time run along now

"Ignorent dumbasses like you"

Talk about projection!

Talk about spelling and punctuation fail!

You don't know why Roy declined yet you type as if you do.

Can you see a pattern? Maybe the other things you think are right are wrong?

Maybe you can see now, your own ******ity and ignorance? Or do you lack the intelligence to see it?

DURRRRR!

[Ray Corso]

Find a boxing gym and a boxing trainer! Not someone who bounces from mma and any other contact sport. Just listen to your trainer, eat normal foods, rest well, run and let your genetics take over! Boxing is a totally different experience from the contact of football but you have an idea of how contact can effect your body & mind and thats a good start! good luck Ray.

[AlexKid]

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find a boxing gym and a boxing trainer! Not someone who bounces from mma and any other contact sport. Just listen to your trainer, eat normal foods, rest well, run and let your genetics take over! Boxing is a totally different experience from the contact of football but you have an idea of how contact can effect your body & mind and thats a good start! Good luck ray.

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[Isaac Hunt]

Find a boxing gym and a boxing trainer! Not someone who bounces from mma and any other contact sport. Just listen to your trainer, eat normal foods, rest well, run and let your genetics take over! Boxing is a totally different experience from the contact of football but you have an idea of how contact can effect your body & mind and thats a good start! good luck Ray.

This is spot on advice. Do the training,eat right and let nature take it's course and you will know what weight is right for you rather than trying to morph yourself to some preconceived idea of what you feel you should be.

[Danny Gunz]

Whats up guys im new to the forum and just wanted to get some info

Im a 21 year old ex collegiate football player, ive played sports most of my life and have always wanted to try boxing. My question is how do i go about losing all te muscle mass I have built from football to compete in boxing? I played free safety so im still relatively lean just not as lean as a boxer would be. I would like to fight in the middleweight division and i feel as though without weights thats where my body would be naturally im 6'1 about 200 right now. I started running 3 miles a day this week accompanied with some jump roping rounds and abs.

Why would you want to lose the muscle mass that you have???

If you have that much muscle/strength you will be much stronger than the average boxer take it and run with it. Weight means nothing if you feel good at that weight, strong, and fast stick with it.