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    So you throw a right hook (lead hand for southpaw) as you pivot right. (at the same time)

    Mario Kinderlan does this alot, hes a famous cuban boxer an olympic boxer.

    So basically am I right in understanding that it doesnt matter if the orthodox fighter is throwing a jab, straight right, or left hook, or any other punch for that matter the pivot hook will get you out of harms way?

  • #2
    Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
    So you throw a right hook (lead hand for southpaw) as you pivot right. (at the same time)

    Mario Kinderlan does this alot, hes a famous cuban boxer an olympic boxer.

    So basically am I right in understanding that it doesnt matter if the orthodox fighter is throwing a jab, straight right, or left hook, or any other punch for that matter the pivot hook will get you out of harms way?
    A wide hook could catch you with a glove or a forearm as a southpaw turning his opponent to his right, so keep those hands up.

    When they are rolling that way the orthodox fighter wants to unload hook after hook. When the southpaw catches/blocks his first hook of yours let that right hand go. All the while you gotta bring your feet with you. If he's still turning you then get back on the hooks. Never forget the straight right to the body, while getting low, in between the sequences of hooks. Keep those hands up!!!!! Just guessing ofcourse.......... Rockin'

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    • #3
      That's a check hook. It's one of my favorite punches to throw as a southpaw when a guy is coming forward. Almost floored someone with this when I fought off their jab.

      You can use this to counter anything your opponent is doing assuming...

      1. His reach doesn't allow him to touch you but you can't reach him w/out him leaning in.
      2. You throw your punch shorter and quicker than his punch

      Against their Jab: The jab is a quick and short punch so it may get through. However, in most cases, trading a jab for a lead hook is not a bad exchange. It's also good practice to keep your left hand up to protect your chin as you pivot to catch the jab or a right hand that gets through.

      Against their Right Hand: The pivot should get you out of the way of the right hand. But again, keep that left hand up just in case it gets through.

      Against a lead upper cut: The check hook should crush someone throwing a lead upper cut. Again, the pivot should make the upper cut catch air.

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      • #4
        Oh yeah Alex, when they are turning like that slam a right hook into the opponents left side or arm or mid belly, follow with hooks. If he keeps doing it than you keep doing the same mixing up left hooks to his organs and arms, and right hooks to the body/head. It takes it's toll after a round or two of it. Hands come back high.

        I always pressured southpaws, they always seemed to have a height/reach advantage. Actually beat a guy either 3of4 or 2of3 who ended up fighting for a world title. I got to fight/spar against a lot of good southpaws............... Rockin
        Last edited by Rockin'; 02-02-2014, 07:48 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
          Oh yeah Alex, when they are turning like that slam a right hook into the opponents left side or arm or mid belly, follow with hooks. If he keeps doing it than you keep doing the same mixing up left hooks to his organs and arms, and right hooks to the body/head. It takes it's toll after a round or two of it. Hands come back high.

          I always pressured southpaws, they always seemed to have a height/reach advantage. Actually beat a guy either 3of4 or 2of3 who ended up fighting for a world title. I got to fight/spar against a lot of good southpaws............... Rockin
          Is there footage of your fighting days? If so, why don't you post it?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mconstantine View Post
            Is there footage of your fighting days? If so, why don't you post it?
            I used to have a ton of my bouts but lost it, or it got destroyed, through some tough years. I believe that my mom may still have my scrapbook, but still I wouldn't post nothin' up. Too many azzholes.......... Rockin'
            Last edited by Rockin'; 02-02-2014, 08:31 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
              I used to have a ton of my bouts but lost it, or it got destroyed, through some tough years. I believe that my mom may still have my scrapbook, but still I wouldn't post nothin' up. Too many azzholes.......... Rockin'
              Damn, that's too bad. And who cares about the azzholes. My guess is the azzholes would be the ones who probably never even so much as sparred.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mconstantine View Post
                And who cares about the azzholes. My guess is the azzholes would be the ones who probably never even so much as sparred.

                And if they had sparred we wouldn't see the vast majority of them the next day, month or year. We just would never see them again, even with all of their talk before hand.

                It takes something that few men have, muy grande cohones.

                And good lookin' out, it's much appreciated............ Rockin'

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
                  So you throw a right hook (lead hand for southpaw) as you pivot right. (at the same time)

                  Mario Kinderlan does this alot, hes a famous cuban boxer an olympic boxer.

                  So basically am I right in understanding that it doesnt matter if the orthodox fighter is throwing a jab, straight right, or left hook, or any other punch for that matter the pivot hook will get you out of harms way?



                  Lead hooks (orthadox and southpaw) are great counter punches. Lead hook are two of the best punches in boxing just general imo. Of course things like this vary fighter to fighter tho.

                  But Alex, the lead hook isnt a magic punch that you can throw out in any situation and it will magically get you out of harms way. Way more goes into it than that like footwork, angles and timing.

                  Also, just like any punch, you cant be predictable with it. If someone opens themselves up to a right hook all night then by all means knock their head off with it. Just be careful because if its a smart fighter they will likely catch on quickly.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                    A wide hook could catch you with a glove or a forearm as a southpaw turning his opponent to his right, so keep those hands up.

                    When they are rolling that way the orthodox fighter wants to unload hook after hook. When the southpaw catches/blocks his first hook of yours let that right hand go. All the while you gotta bring your feet with you. If he's still turning you then get back on the hooks. Never forget the straight right to the body, while getting low, in between the sequences of hooks. Keep those hands up!!!!! Just guessing ofcourse.......... Rockin'
                    Awesome cheers bro!

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