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  • frosty-g
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    #21
    Originally posted by TheNegation
    HUH? I'm sorry but you're the one not making any sense. Moving ***** weights for tons of reps is not going to make you explosive or powerful.

    Olympic Lifters are some of the most explosive athletes on earth
    Exactly
    Olympic lifting is super explosive
    I've heard that the second pull of the snatch has been measured as the most explosive movement in sport for what that's worth

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    • jaded
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      #22
      I think the Arnold era was what changed all athletes usage of weight training in all sports. Prior to that weight training was pretty much restricted to power lifters and bodybuilders who were consider freaks and numbered very few by comparison to now.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Harry Balls
        I don't think you can look like Tyson and NOT lift weight. That would be extremely freaky.
        And I think you're wrong sir.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Harry Balls
          And how do you propose you build a lean 200lbs physique at Tysons height without weightlifting?

          It just naturally grew on him? Like he's some kind of cyborg?
          No, that's just ridiculous.

          He certainly did not build it by bouncing around a medicine ball.

          He may have built a fair share squatting with a trainer on his back, but that wouldn't explain his developed tri, bi and back area.
          And this is by all purposes "lifting weights".

          He could have done weighted dips and chinups, but that's weightlifting. Even if it's not on a barbell it's still weightlifting.

          Basically if you add weights onto your exercise it's "lifting weight". It doesn't have to be hammer curls with a dumbell.
          How did he build his gigantic trapz? Probably by shrugging something that's not his own bodyweight?

          So please explain it in a way that wouldn't get laughed at by a fifth grade biology teacher.
          You're spitting non sense. I'm no Tyson but I have similar genetics as him. I can do nothing for months and just gain a little fat in the stomach and face. You're in denial because you probably tried hard and couldn't achieve but keep trying.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ray Corso
            Not much weight lifting up at Cus's gym. alot of chins and incline board work though! Working the mids off the ring aproon and that aproach to strength developement.

            Tyson wasn't in the gym at 12 he was a chubby kid and never was 6 foot tall unless he was on a ladder! At 12 he was stealing purses and acting out like a fool! He got to Cus's just as he turned 14 if I remember right. he was a ward of the state of New York remanded into Cus D'Amato's care!
            Once he got his ears boxed in he became a pretty humble kid, thats the Tyson I remember when he started. A far cry from what the fans know! Ray
            I read one of the Tyson bios and you're right. He was even picked on because the way he looked.

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              #26
              Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
              I hear all the time back in the days boxers never lifted weights. If so, how come there were still as many/if not more strong punchers back in the day than now?

              Was there a certain time frame when weights were introduced?

              I remember Fraizer in a competition for lifting weights, his form was ****, but due to his strength won the competition.

              Did Tyson lift weights on his come up? It seems all the old school training/trainers would never go to weights.
              Boxers have been using weights since 2000 BC during egyption times.

              Press ups are weight lifting, the weight is the the human body, its essentially no different to a heavy barbell.

              Lifting heavy objects such as stones is also weight lifting.

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                #27
                Originally posted by mconstantine
                So true. Definitely agree with not doing it often. I like to lift full body once per week. It makes me feel stronger and faster...I feel like anymore would definitely be detrimental and takes away from skill work.

                I always shake my head when people who know nothing about fighting/boxing say "look at that guy, he's huge, I bet he could whoop some a$$" I'm like that's easy work for almost any decent skilled fighter with some rhythm and footwork.
                i hate that too. im a very lanky fighter to say the least, skinny even. when i was in high school i was about 6'3 boxing at 141lbs, needles to say i was a beast in the eyes of anyone who knew boxing.

                but there were these morons at my school, never even watched a real fight just KO highlights and rocky movies. still they had the arrogance to think they knew more about boxing than myself, an actual boxer. kept talking about how this friend of theirs would knock me out in 5 seconds because he was built, running around saying i was scared of him and whatnot.

                i said he can come down to the boxing gym and we can spar any day of the week, their response was why not do it now? in jeans, with no gloves in the fcking street. i told them thats not even boxing and theres a police station a few hundred feet away.

                they claimed those were "excuses", i was scared of this meathead who didnt know how to throw a jab. dude wasnt even a big guy, just a bulked up midget. i still remember those days, they really got under my skin after a while. but it taught me a lesson about only paying attention to ppl who matter, a lesson that comes in handy plenty here on boxingscene lol.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin
                  i hate that too. im a very lanky fighter to say the least, skinny even. when i was in high school i was about 6'3 boxing at 141lbs, needles to say i was a beast in the eyes of anyone who knew boxing.

                  but there were these morons at my school, never even watched a real fight just KO highlights and rocky movies. still they had the arrogance to think they knew more about boxing than myself, an actual boxer. kept talking about how this friend of theirs would knock me out in 5 seconds because he was built, running around saying i was scared of him and whatnot.

                  i said he can come down to the boxing gym and we can spar any day of the week, their response was why not do it now? in jeans, with no gloves in the fcking street. i told them thats not even boxing and theres a police station a few hundred feet away.

                  they claimed those were "excuses", i was scared of this meathead who didnt know how to throw a jab. dude wasnt even a big guy, just a bulked up midget. i still remember those days, they really got under my skin after a while. but it taught me a lesson about only paying attention to ppl who matter, a lesson that comes in handy plenty here on boxingscene lol.
                  I get annoyed when people talk about fighting as if it's the same as boxing.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by #1Assassin
                    i hate that too. im a very lanky fighter to say the least, skinny even. when i was in high school i was about 6'3 boxing at 141lbs, needles to say i was a beast in the eyes of anyone who knew boxing.

                    but there were these morons at my school, never even watched a real fight just KO highlights and rocky movies. still they had the arrogance to think they knew more about boxing than myself, an actual boxer. kept talking about how this friend of theirs would knock me out in 5 seconds because he was built, running around saying i was scared of him and whatnot.

                    i said he can come down to the boxing gym and we can spar any day of the week, their response was why not do it now? in jeans, with no gloves in the fcking street. i told them thats not even boxing and theres a police station a few hundred feet away.

                    they claimed those were "excuses", i was scared of this meathead who didnt know how to throw a jab. dude wasnt even a big guy, just a bulked up midget. i still remember those days, they really got under my skin after a while. but it taught me a lesson about only paying attention to ppl who matter, a lesson that comes in handy plenty here on boxingscene lol.
                    hate ****s like that. Should have just dropped a few jabs and right on him and shut him up lol

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                    • jaded
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                      #30
                      Tyson did not use much weight training early...but he wasn't that muscular then. This was him when he was quite young...didn't really look like a genetic monster.




                      He definitely lifted weights later on...

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