Training muscles VS training sport specific movements

[AlexKid]

Ok there is an exercise I sometimes do thats called a donkey kick press.

Which is basically lifting weight with your leg in the same motion as if you were kicking behind you like a donkey or horse kicks behind it.

This motion is quite simlar to say the foward leg drive when you throw a rear cross punch.

(training a sport specific movement)


BUT

When I squat or deadlift, I can lift ALOT more weight single leg or x2 leg, and my muscles are much more strongly worked. However the squat isnt as close in terms of sport specific movement as the donkey kick press.


(training muscle)



So which one is most likely to to improve the power of my rear cross punch and why?

(I know it would be simple to say do both etc but I want to undertsand why many trainers think/know its superior to train movements rather than muscles)

[Danny Gunz]

Doing the compound movements like a squat or deadlift. They work all muscles from your legs to your core, which are all muscles used when punching

[~AK49~]

I would say master your technique, then improve upon it with raw power (squats, deads, etc).

But the power is in the technique

[frosty-g]

I would say master your technique, then improve upon it with raw power (squats, deads, etc).

But the power is in the technique

squats and deadlifts are not power exercises and certainly not raw power

[Danny Gunz]

squats and deadlifts are not power exercises and certainly not raw power

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[Ray Corso]

Technique can be improved in time! Power is a genetic blessing, you can get stronger and in conjuction with excellant technique the power will improve but raw punching power is from birth! Just as heavy handed fighters are born not developed. Ray.
Technique first!!!

[frosty-g]

.........

do you know what "power" means?

[~AK49~]

do you know what "power" means?

Im curious as to what left field definition of 'power' you are gonna grace us with...

[frosty-g]

Im curious as to what left field definition of 'power' you are gonna grace us with...

here you go.

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/energy/u5l1e.cfm

[~AK49~]

here you go.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/energy/u5l1e.cfm

So....judging by your academic definition, power=work divided by time. Now, lets specify the equation to the question at hand...work=weight, time=reps and/or time.

Power=weight divided by reps/time. More weight, divided by same reps and/or time as opposed to lower weight, divided by same reps and/or time.

In other words....squats and deads.