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  • Building Hand Speed Is A Myth???

    I read the most recent article on the front page of this site. It basically said that you cant really build speed.... i think the best way he mentioned was to shadow box and get your own style. He also said that hand-weights dont help.....

    The man has credibility, but i really dont believe some of the stuff he says in this article....

    Lenny DeJesus has been training fighters for 35 years. A former amateur and professional fighter. Lenny is also a former N.Y. State Champion. Lenny has worked the corners with some of the all time great trainers as well, Ray Arcel, Angelo Dundee, Eddie Futch, Carlos Ortiz, Hector Rocca, Al Gavin, the list goes on. Among some of the fighters he has worked with in the past are, Hector Camacho, Roberto Duran, Wilfredo Gomez, Wilfredo Benitez, Edwin Rosario, Alex Ramos, Carlos Santos, and almost too many more to mention.

    Lenny DeJesus is also one of the best cutmen in the business, and is most recognizable by his trademark bandanna. Teamed with Norman Bagi, Lenny and Norman form Wrecking Crew Boxing, He is currently cutman for Manny Pacquiao and works with Casamayor and many others.

    Boxingscene; Lenny our members formed a forum thread asking the best way to build hand speed in the gym. Could you help us out with that a bit today.

    DeJesus: It’s not a matter of hands speed it’s a matter of knowing when to shoot that jab. The Jab I call the “Mugging shot” you mug the guy to set up all the other punches. A lot of guys don’t do that in today’s fighting game. Today they want to be pretty they want to look nice and they don’t want to get hit. Duran used to put you to sleep with his lazy jab but he was setting you up for a body shot.

    Wilfredo Gomez, devastating puncher, he was a left hander converted to right hander. His power shot was his left but he could put you to sleep with his jab. He would put it in your face then boom he would go down to the rib cage. Tommy Hearns had a nice jab that he injured Sugar Ray with. You could just put your jab out there fast, fast, fast but that won’t get you anything. It is just used to set your guy up for other punches.

    Boxingscene; What are some of the better exercises and training methods to build the hand speed for those combinations?

    DeJesus; When you are in the mirror shadow boxing, first you got to get a good posture and a good position where you are going to come up with your own style. Sometimes today they imitate a Sugar Ray Leonard or Muhammad Ali. Ali had a lazy jab and he would jab your head off, when he took out Foreman remember he did the rope-a-dope but he was bothering him with the jab all night, blinding him, then he shot that little right hand. He got him tired and dropped him. Kids today they have to set-up their own style and that’s how you create your movement of punches, and punching power.

    Boxingscene; What about using heavy gloves?

    DeJesus: I don’t recommend that. That doesn’t do anything for you. A lot of guys say they lift weights and I do this or that. Sometimes the structure of an individual is different from another one. Sometimes you build up muscle and sometimes you don’t. You may only build up a little power hear or there. If you have a hundred and ten pound fighter you put him on with 12 ounce gloves. If you have a heavyweight you use 24 ounce gloves. That’s just to protect the guys inside the gym. If you put a 24 ounce glove on a 140 pound guy you are going to ruin him.

    Boxingscene; So the old ways are still the best, pushups with hand claps and speed bag?

    DeJesus: Exactly, that’s how you build a solid athlete, some fighters want to get away with murder and do an hour in the gym. Jumping rope hitting the speed bag, hitting the speed ball, hitting the crazy ball doing the proper exercises going home satisfied that you did a days work.

    Boxingscene: So a lot of it is not getting in and out of the gym in an hour? DeJesus; Right, you give me five days three hours a day and I’ll make a fighter out of you and give you the confidence you need when you are in the ring.

    Boxingscene; What about working with hands weights?

    DeJesus; Hand weights I don’t use very much because it doesn’t bring anything to the table. If you have power you have power if you don’t you don’t. Power comes from the hand speed. If you have speed you have power. A lot of guys are not sure of themselves and before the punch is reaching they are already backing up. So there is no power there. You have guys that can punch real hard but before they throw the punch they are pulling away because they are afraid of being hit.

  • #2
    Hand speed in my opinion can be improved upon, obviously the sharper and fitter you become the faster your hands become.

    There cannot be a dramatic change but just as a sprinter can improve their foot speed with technique, practice and fitness then surely a boxer can improve their hand speed?
    Last edited by MickyHatton; 12-14-2005, 12:24 PM.

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    • #3
      i do 5 rounds with 3lb weights heavy hands is the name of the drill pretty much just shadow boxing,then when i jump to sparring my hands feel alot faster..

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      • #4
        i think he's partly correct. the best way to build your hand speed is to find a stance where you can comfortably throw combinations. thats just for combo speed though.

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        • #5
          hand weights and hours of practice is the key to building hand speed, but it is possible.

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          • #6
            handspeed is one off those attributes you cant change much.

            the better technic you have the better the punches will fly so my advive would be a lot off shadowboxing.

            dont believe hand weights will make you faster, stronger and more endurant but not faster.

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            • #7
              From my sparring experience, when i wasnt in the greatest condition my jab was the first thing to lose speed and start to 'droop'

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              • #8
                Originally posted by butterfly1964
                hand weights and hours of practice is the key to building hand speed, but it is possible.


                do "exercises" that build up finger and wrist strength, daily vigourous masturbating is one of the best ways to improve
                hand speed

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BigDozer260
                  I personally think hand weights are not very beneficail simply because you are wasting enegy on the motion resisting gravity. I have developed three methods for increasing hand speed. With hand weights all you are doing is putting your shoulder muscles in a biomechanically unsafe postion actually doing more harm than good even on 3-5lbs. The methods I've develped are simple, yet effective, and they train the body, yes the body, not just the arms the way the movements patterns and skills of the sport requires.
                  than let us hear your methods

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BigDozer260
                    Boxing is the only sport that believes that performance is simply genetic and there nothing that can be done to improve.
                    ummmm

                    your going to far with that statment we believe it can be improved but we dont believe you can get the speed,power,stamina at all time greats level without the right genes.

                    but ofcours trining help

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