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  • #11
    1. work the punching back more and count get a goal of punches per round
    2. you need to stay calm and relaxed, it does wonders to let you open up
    3. don't hesitate , you don't have much time per round.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
      train to fight 2 mins with 2 min rounds, you mentally pace yourself for the rounds you train for so that at then end of each round your nearing max heart rate and lactate threshold.

      if you train for 3 min rounds, mentally you pace your self to a point of exhaustion at the end of those 3 mins.

      if you train for a 2 min round, mentally you pace yourself for the same point of exhaustion at the end of those 2 mins.

      so obiviously the person pacing themselfs for the 2 min round is going to have a higher punch output then the person pacing them selfs for a 3 min round.

      so if your fighting 2 min rounds train with 2 min rounds.

      this is also why if your fighting 2 or 3 min rounds 4 min rounds for training are a bad idea.
      No, no, no. If you do 2 min rounds, you train for 3. How else are you going to up the tempo in a 2 minute round. Now for 3 min rounds it's different. Most usually train for 3 min. 2 min rounds are too short to go only 2 minutes if you want to up you punch output. You have to take yourself to the limit to see what you have when the gas tank is on E.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Versastyle View Post
        No, no, no. If you do 2 min rounds, you train for 3. How else are you going to up the tempo in a 2 minute round. Now for 3 min rounds it's different. Most usually train for 3 min. 2 min rounds are too short to go only 2 minutes if you want to up you punch output. You have to take yourself to the limit to see what you have when the gas tank is on E.
        nah, in most studies its found that 4*2 min rounds elevates lactate lvls and heart rate up to 10% more then 3*3 min rounds.

        people mentally push themselfs harder when they know they only have to go for 2 mins.

        sure in 2 mins your not going to punch more then you would in 3 mins but in a 2 min round your going to punch more then you would in the first 2 mins of a 3 min round.

        im not sure if this link works, but if it does it should either open the pdf in a new page or ask you to D/L it. it provides plenty of information about studies done on boxing. there are several other studis out there, this is just the one where they compare Heart rate and lactate between 3*3 and 4*2

        http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...LCBUwGUcjG9Ghw
        Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 04-16-2012, 04:27 AM.

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        • #14
          in my first fight my head was all over the place i was sitting watching the earlier fights and wasnt focusing on the job at hand i underestimated my opponent and lost it was a terrible performance i was real upset to the point that i promised myself not to take anyone lightly again i got back in the gym on monday and rematched him a few months later and got the win. im sure you'll do the same just dont underestimate ever.

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          • #15
            work on your stamina , learn to keep on your toes and keep them at the end of the jab 24/7, i usually lost fights because of the same reason

            watched ali frazier more times than i can remember, i got a long reach and i'm pretty tall so it's easy for me to keep them at bay + i got some pop so they think twice before going in

            easier said than done of course but as i said stamina is the #1 factor in this

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            • #16
              Jab Jab and Jab. I had the same problem developed a jab and cut the ring, walk my apponent down and get him trapped then set your punches, but easier said than done just keep hitting the gym that's what sparring is for.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by jamiegeorge91 View Post
                in my first fight my head was all over the place i was sitting watching the earlier fights and wasnt focusing on the job at hand i underestimated my opponent and lost it was a terrible performance i was real upset to the point that i promised myself not to take anyone lightly again i got back in the gym on monday and rematched him a few months later and got the win. im sure you'll do the same just dont underestimate ever.
                I've certainly learned my lesson. I've got a photo of the referee lifting his hand stuck to my bedroom wall. If that won't motivate me to train as hard as I can for my next fight, nothing will. Thanks for the encouragement, man....it means a lot.

                Originally posted by Alx. View Post
                work on your stamina , learn to keep on your toes and keep them at the end of the jab 24/7, i usually lost fights because of the same reason

                watched ali frazier more times than i can remember, i got a long reach and i'm pretty tall so it's easy for me to keep them at bay + i got some pop so they think twice before going in

                easier said than done of course but as i said stamina is the #1 factor in this
                This guy I was fighting was slightly taller than me and had a slightly longer reach, which is what made it awkward for me. I think you're totally right about developing that kind of stamina - it's a different type of stamina than the type that I have, which is one that's conducive to boxing on the back foot and occasionally coming in with the jab or a 1-2. I'm gonna tell my coach to yell at me if he sees me step backward in sparring unnecessarily to help change my mentality. Thanks for the advice.

                Originally posted by DeadlyOverhand View Post
                Jab Jab and Jab. I had the same problem developed a jab and cut the ring, walk my apponent down and get him trapped then set your punches, but easier said than done just keep hitting the gym that's what sparring is for.
                I'm sparring tonight, so I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the advice.

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                • #18
                  Throwing punches just to be throwing punches makes absolutely no sense at all. Or, it didn't, until dingbat judges started scoring "busyness" instead of clean punches and effective aggression. Keep in mind that you, yourself, are most vulnerable to being hit when you are punching, more so if you are punching just to be throwing punches.
                  You said you were looking to make him lead, miss and then counter, but that you were not busy enough at the end of the fight. I would suggest a few things.
                  First, counter with more than one punch. You want to be sure of the first one, but then follow up. You get in the habit of doing this by working through scenarios while you hit the heavy bag and while you shadow-box, not just in sparring. You envision it: He jabs, I slip outside and left hook to the solar plexus, right hand over the top, left hook. Like that.
                  Second, press behind the jab, but maintain distance. This makes him react to your jab and come to you, which gives you more opportunities to counter with multiple punches. remember, you get points for hitting him. He gets points for hitting you. The idea is to maximize one and minimize the other.
                  Third, learn to steal rounds. Be busy at the end. If you fight 2minute rounds, train for two minute rounds, and for the number of rounds you are going to fight. It doesn't make sense to train to fight 10 three minute rounds if you're only fighting 3 twos. What good could it possibly do you to be able to fight all night if you don't get started until the 8th minute? In the gym work sharp, avoid the tendency to just get through it, or to train to much. You need to work sharp for as long as you are working.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
                    nah, in most studies its found that 4*2 min rounds elevates lactate lvls and heart rate up to 10% more then 3*3 min rounds.

                    people mentally push themselfs harder when they know they only have to go for 2 mins.

                    sure in 2 mins your not going to punch more then you would in 3 mins but in a 2 min round your going to punch more then you would in the first 2 mins of a 3 min round.

                    im not sure if this link works, but if it does it should either open the pdf in a new page or ask you to D/L it. it provides plenty of information about studies done on boxing. there are several other studis out there, this is just the one where they compare Heart rate and lactate between 3*3 and 4*2

                    http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...LCBUwGUcjG9Ghw
                    That's insane. I've never heard seen people do that. But at times they've put the timer at 2 minutes but it was for other reasons. I heard Mayweather is doing 5 minute rounds now. That's insane.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Versastyle View Post
                      That's insane. I've never heard seen people do that. But at times they've put the timer at 2 minutes but it was for other reasons. I heard Mayweather is doing 5 minute rounds now. That's insane.
                      diffrent people have diffrent styles, floyd throws about 38 punches per round, the average for his weight class is 58 per round, if he is doing 5 min rounds in training, id say it corrolates quite well with my point that training for longer rounds then your fighting lowers your punch output.

                      though for floyd he dosnt need to throw as many punches per round, as he connects nearly 50% of the time compared to any one fighting against him barely connecting 20% of the time.
                      Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 04-17-2012, 02:33 AM.

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