what is you all's opinion of distance runs and new school training for boxing?

[Funky_Monk]

This kind of thinking is unsound. It is in line with life's kicks to the bollox are good for you and build character. Nadal's uncle who trains him is into this kind of thing. Part of his training ideas are to train Nadal in the sun and not give him water to get him used to performing under stress of dehydration.That is rediculous there is a lot of research that shows your performance levels drop dramatically when dehydrated and no amount of training when you are dehydrated is going to make you perform better. This kind of training is just getting used to take schite.

So can I ask how you'd develop mental strength?
There is also research that suggests both a higher areobic an anerobic fitness helps recover from shock/ trauma.
Does anyone know of any pro's using tracking equipment during sparring for distances covered like they do in alot of pro sports now. Does anyonehere use a heart rate monitor during sparring?

[Sugarj]

So can I ask how you'd develop mental strength?
There is also research that suggests both a higher areobic an anerobic fitness helps recover from shock/ trauma.
Does anyone know of any pro's using tracking equipment during sparring for distances covered like they do in alot of pro sports now. Does anyonehere use a heart rate monitor during sparring?

I've used a heart rate monitor during a decent heavy bag workout. I hit the bag for about 20 minutes and the average BPM was around 150BPM.

I can hit 180+BPM in tough runs.

[Funky_Monk]

I've used a heart rate monitor during a decent heavy bag workout. I hit the bag for about 20 minutes and the average BPM was around 150BPM.

I can hit 180+BPM in tough runs.

Whats your resting hr? Mines about 48-50. Apparently Lance Armstrongs is crazy low.
Also I used to know another important measure about how quickly you can convert oxygen..... I can't recall the term but I plan to get it tested maybe at easter.

[Funky_Monk]

Whats your resting hr? Mines about 48-50. Apparently Lance Armstrongs is crazy low.
Also I used to know another important measure about how quickly you can convert oxygen..... I can't recall the term but I plan to get it tested maybe at easter.

VO2 Max. Anyone had this measured?

[Spartacus Sully]

I've used a heart rate monitor during a decent heavy bag workout. I hit the bag for about 20 minutes and the average BPM was around 150BPM.

I can hit 180+BPM in tough runs.

how about you hit the bag for 2 mins rest a min then hit the bag for 2 mins then rest for a min then hit the bag for 2 mins then rest for a min then hit the bag for 2 mins...

if your hitting the bag for 20 mins obiviously you arent going to be keeping that much of a pace to keep it up for 20 mins.

http://www.jssm.org/combat/1/11/F1.htm

http://www.jssm.org/combat/1/11/v5combat-11text.php

http://www.jssm.org/combat/1/12/v5combat-12.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8543363

1 round of sparring can easily get a boxers heart rate above 175.

[Spartacus Sully]

VO2 Max. Anyone had this measured?

there are many studies out there

http://www.google.com/search?q=boxin...aq=f&aqi=&aql=

they show that vo2 lvls dont tend to hit vo2 max during an average bout.

and while improving vo2 is good, lactate threshold and heart rate is much more important.

[Funky_Monk]

there are many studies out there

http://www.google.com/search?q=boxin...aq=f&aqi=&aql=

they show that vo2 lvls dont tend to hit vo2 max during an average bout.

and while improving vo2 is good, lactate threshold and heart rate is much more important.

Sorry, I should have explained I dont box competively. I run and cycle.
Maybe I hijacked the thread a little with my question but I wondered if anyone had been on a machine to have this test I will create a new thread.

[Sugarj]

Whats your resting hr? Mines about 48-50. Apparently Lance Armstrongs is crazy low.
Also I used to know another important measure about how quickly you can convert oxygen..... I can't recall the term but I plan to get it tested maybe at easter.

Yes, I've heard that Lance Armstrong's has been under 30!!!! A relative of mine was in the late 30s in his marathon running prime.

The last time I took an accurate resting heart beat of mine was a year ago in February, it was 47 BPM sat at work. My running is better since then so it might be lower now. It probably is lower asleep at night. I could count my pulse right now, but when it isn't counted by a monitor but personally you can tend to hold your breath or try to will it slower etc.

I'll have a look over the next few days.

[Sugarj]

how about you hit the bag for 2 mins rest a min then hit the bag for 2 mins then rest for a min then hit the bag for 2 mins then rest for a min then hit the bag for 2 mins...

if your hitting the bag for 20 mins obiviously you arent going to be keeping that much of a pace to keep it up for 20 mins.

http://www.jssm.org/combat/1/11/F1.htm

http://www.jssm.org/combat/1/11/v5combat-11text.php

http://www.jssm.org/combat/1/12/v5combat-12.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8543363

1 round of sparring can easily get a boxers heart rate above 175.

You'd be surprised what sort of pace I can keep up on a heavy bag for 20-30 mins. Its far from a slow pace. But it doesn't compare to sparring at all, a really tough 3 mins sparring can leave you more out of breath.

I try to cover all bases in my training, intervals, rounds and longer activity. Sometimes after a tough week of work I just fancy whacking the heavybag for half an hour without clock watching.

My interval work is more running based....1/4 mile reps and hill reps. Or boxing rounds, 3 min on....1 off. It all seems to be working because my running times are tumbling.

[Funky_Monk]

The pro cycling climbers are literally abnormal. I find being pluged in at a Dr's or hospital makes mine race a little....but I take your point.
Luckily my blood pressure isnt too low....