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  • #21
    Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
    so if i do your routine twice a week im always going to be lifting the same weight?
    No, as you get stronger your 1RM will increase, so thus you use the 75-85% of your new 1RM. Your maximal strength will increase as a by-product of this training, but not in the same way it would if you focussed solely on it. Because it's only a by-product and not the sole focus of the training, your maximal strength will not reach the required levels to impair peformance as your explosive strength will increase in line with it, thus maintaining speed and power provided plyometric movements are also incorporated into the routine and skill/conditioning is not neglected.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by DaveJH View Post
      Your maximal strength will increase
      thats what i thought

      Speed strength is also very important for fighters. Unfortunately, many athletes train improperly, hence sacrifice this strength quality. For example, world-renowned sport scientist Yuri Verkhoshansky and colleagues established that:

      "Excessive maximum strength training can impair speed-strength and technical skill in boxers." (2)
      http://www.rosstraining.com/articles...htraining.html

      Plyos is a much better option, for explosive strength, while body weight exercises are all you need for maximal strength.

      and as i said before, if you really really need heavy weights in your program:

      3 sets of 1 rep at 100% 1rm with full recovery and stretching between sets is best.
      Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 01-07-2012, 03:59 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
        thats what i thought



        http://www.rosstraining.com/articles...htraining.html

        Plyos is a much better option, for explosive strength, while body weight exercises are all you need for maximal strength.

        and as i said before, if you really really need heavy weights in your program:

        3 sets of 1 rep at 100% 1rm with full recovery and stretching between sets is best.
        It says EXCESSIVE maximal strength.

        I'll define excessive for you - Adjective:
        More than is necessary, normal, or desirable; immoderate.

        Having a degree of maximal strength isn't harmful. I follow the programme Ross outlines in his book, designed for combat athletes such as boxers. I think I'll take the word of a proven trainer, who's trained professional fighters for bouts than the word of a nobody on a forum.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by DaveJH View Post
          It says EXCESSIVE maximal strength.

          I'll define excessive for you - Adjective:
          More than is necessary, normal, or desirable; immoderate.

          Having a degree of maximal strength isn't harmful. I follow the programme Ross outlines in his book, designed for combat athletes such as boxers. I think I'll take the word of a proven trainer, who's trained professional fighters for bouts than the word of a nobody on a forum.
          more then necessary.

          your opponent only weighs as much as you, more then that would be more then necessary, eh?

          how much do you squat? how much do you weigh?

          that a ross training book or a ross boxing book? post a link to the book?

          not all combat athletes are ment to be built the same. wrestlers make ****ty boxers.
          Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 01-07-2012, 04:26 PM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
            more then necessary.

            your opponent only weighs as much as you, more then that would be more then necessary, eh?

            how much do you squat? how much do you weigh?

            that a ross training book or a ross boxing book? post a link to the book?

            not all combat athletes are ment to be built the same. wrestlers make ****ty boxers.
            I weigh 165lbs and currently use one-legged squats rather than barbell or dumbell squats.

            Here's a link to the book: http://www.rosstraining.com/infiniteintensity.html

            Considering Ross was a boxer himself and primarily trains boxers, I think his exercises are going to be relevant for most fighters.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by DaveJH View Post
              I weigh 165lbs and currently use one-legged squats rather than barbell or dumbell squats.

              Here's a link to the book: http://www.rosstraining.com/infiniteintensity.html

              Considering Ross was a boxer himself and primarily trains boxers, I think his exercises are going to be relevant for most fighters.
              so you use an athlete training routine, and not a boxing routine recommended by ross?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
                so you use an athlete training routine, and not a boxing routine recommended by ross?
                A boxer IS an athlete?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by DaveJH View Post
                  A boxer IS an athlete?
                  your using a general routine instead of one created specifically for your athletic goal?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
                    your using a general routine instead of one created specifically for your athletic goal?
                    It's designed for combat athletes and uses countless examples relevant to boxing. Ross used to box himself, and primarily coaches boxers, thus, I think his work is very relevant to me.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by DaveJH View Post
                      It's designed for combat athletes and uses countless examples relevant to boxing. Ross used to box himself, and primarily coaches boxers, thus, I think his work is very relevant to me.
                      see how ross's godfrey got destroyed for 10 rounds by roach's kayode?

                      he prob followed the same general routine you followed...

                      "Godfrey down once in each of rounds one, five and nine"

                      http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...5616&cat=boxer

                      damn......
                      Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 01-07-2012, 04:54 PM.

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