Do you drag your foot when you step?

[Spartacus Sully]

dragging the foot is slow. You can glide your foot just above the canvas and place it 6 inches or more infront of it's starting position and you will reach that position quicker by picking it up and moving it. "Stepping in with a right hand". You step in with your left foot jabbing as you push off of your back foot delivering the jab. You then PICK UP the back foot and move it forward as your right fist impacts at the same time that your foot lands on the canvas continuing to push the momentum forward with your head never going infront of your left knee.........Rockin'

agreed, you dont want it dragging, especially on canvas, but you want to keep it as close to the ground as possible.

as far as the jab and throwing the right i couldnt have said it better my self, as i was reading it i was thinking that oooooh I can add in that you dont want to lean too far into the right but you even mentioned that with saying you dont want your head going infront of the left knee.

good post, green k...damn seems ive allready given to much green k to you.

[Rockin']

agreed, you dont want it dragging, especially on canvas, but you want to keep it as close to the ground as possible.

as far as the jab and throwing the right i couldnt have said it better my self, as i was reading it i was thinking that oooooh I can add in that you dont want to lean too far into the right but you even mentioned that with saying you dont want your head going infront of the left knee.

good post, green k...damn seems ive allready given to much green k to you.

I'm glad that you showed up. I was like WTF are these people thinking. Green K back if it allows me.........Rockin'

[Spartacus Sully]

I'm glad that you showed up. I was like WTF are these people thinking. Green K back if it allows me.........Rockin'

i pratice alot in my garage and its smooth concret, dragging dosnt really make a diffrence, so i never really thought about it too much.

but then after reading your post i got up and moved around abit on the carpet and noticed that i was just instinctivly picking my foot up instead of dragging it. so then i tried moving around and purposely dragging my foot and it was just ackward and slow.

i never really though i was actually moving diffrently from when im in my garage and when im on grass, carpet, or canvas. thanks for helping me realize that and the green k.

[Rockin']

the way that you can sink your feet into a canvas makes a carpet look easy/good...........Rockin

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Good points, Cuauhtémoc. In every sport, the pros start to alter their technique to suit their personal styles. Amateurs need to master the fundamentals until they're good enough to start playing with the basics. A talented pro knows what he can get away with; an amateur learning the sport shouldn't try to change what he doesn't fully understand. The truth is, you can never go wrong with textbook technique.

You should always teach the fundamentals, I teach it to every single one of my kids at the gym. It's important to instill good habits if nothing else. This is the reason that Cuban fighters are so good with their combinations, balance and movement because it's drilled into them a million times.

I couldn't disagree more. These cats can go ahead and drag the foot behind them. when they reach a certain level they will need to change it, so they might as well do it now. Dragging the foot offers no added stability or balance, you will be coming up short on your right hands......Rockin'

Sorry but you failed to answer specific points and make a good point of your own. I answered you in detailed technique and in an intelligent manner and you completely dismissed something that has been in effect for literally hundreds of years.

How is dragging the back foot going to make you come up short with your right hand? The only way that can happen is if your back heel is flat on the ground, it has nothing to do with movement. Dragging your back foot is just a way of teaching young fighters to never pick their feet up and keep proper balance. As long as you keep your back heel up, you can turn very easily and smoothly on the right hand.

I'm not saying what you are doing is wrong, I pick up my foot slightly as well and move in a more advanced way but I have been boxing since I was 13. I have been doing it a long time but that's not what we are talking about.

You TEACH fundamentals, you TEACH the text book way of doing things so young boxers develop GOOD habits.

I have walked into gyms and seen coaches teaching brand new boxers the philly shell and couldn't believe my eyes. People want to fight like Floyd Mayweather before they even learn how to stand and move...lol

You should always learn to crawl before you walk and walk before you run...

[Rockin']

You should always teach the fundamentals, I teach it to every single one of my kids at the gym. It's important to instill good habits if nothing else. This is the reason that Cuban fighters are so good with their combinations, balance and movement because it's drilled into them a million times.



Sorry but you failed to answer specific points and make a good point of your own. I answered you in detailed technique and in an intelligent manner and you completely dismissed something that has been in effect for literally hundreds of years.

How is dragging the back foot going to make you come up short with your right hand? The only way that can happen is if your back heel is flat on the ground, it has nothing to do with movement. Dragging your back foot is just a way of teaching young fighters to never pick their feet up and keep proper balance. As long as you keep your back heel up, you can turn very easily and smoothly on the right hand.

I'm not saying what you are doing is wrong, I pick up my foot slightly as well and move in a more advanced way but I have been boxing since I was 13. I have been doing it a long time but that's not what we are talking about.

You TEACH fundamentals, you TEACH the text book way of doing things so young boxers develop GOOD habits.

I have walked into gyms and seen coaches teaching brand new boxers the philly shell and couldn't believe my eyes. People want to fight like Floyd Mayweather before they even learn how to stand and move...lol

You should always learn to crawl before you walk and walk before you run...

I didn't answer with an in depth explanation at the time because I just didn't feel like it at the time and I don't feel like getting deep into it now. You seem to stand firm on your view that you should drag the foot, that is your opinion and you're entitled to it. I just happen to completely disagree with your view. You teach your way and I'll teach mine. The good thing is that we both want to work with the youths of the area. A good coach for kids will teach so much more than just the fight. Good luck with your kids.......Rockin'

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I didn't answer with an in depth explanation at the time because I just didn't feel like it at the time and I don't feel like getting deep into it now. You seem to stand firm on your view that you should drag the foot, that is your opinion and you're entitled to it. I just happen to completely disagree with your view. You teach your way and I'll teach mine. The good thing is that we both want to work with the youths of the area. A good coach for kids will teach so much more than just the fight. Good luck with your kids.......Rockin'

I'm not arguing with you, if you read my post I agreed that most experienced boxers don't do that in the ring.

I just didn't understand why you dismissed it so easily. Like I said, I think fundamentals are taught to teach young fighters good habits, I have been in gyms here in the U.S and in Mexico and I can tell you in Mexico they drill the fundamentals into you a million times.

I can say it definitely helps because it instills good habits even though you are right, you don't see more advanced fighters drag the back foot.

[Rockin']

I'm not arguing with you, if you read my post I agreed that most experienced boxers don't do that in the ring.

I just didn't understand why you dismissed it so easily. Like I said, I think fundamentals are taught to teach young fighters good habits, I have been in gyms here in the U.S and in Mexico and I can tell you in Mexico they drill the fundamentals into you a million times.

I can say it definitely helps because it instills good habits even though you are right, you don't see more advanced fighters drag the back foot.

I apologize for being short with the reply. I do respect your opinions and respect you as a good poster in here.

When I train somebody we get the basic basics down first. I just don't let them drag the foot no matter how experienced they are. I figure learn it right now and I won't have to correct it later.

The thing with fighting, as you know, is to see it and act upon it as quickly as you can. Dragging the foot slows down the process of getting there as well as leaving you short on right hands if the guy takes just a half step back. Dragging the foot, especially on a padded canvas slows down and limits your right hands power. When dragging your foot you will be able to get good rotation up in the shoulders but if your foot is dragging behind you will not have proper rotation in the hips and your right hands reach is shortened by dragging the foot.

you had mentioned balance before. How could a dragging foot offer more balance than picking it up and setting it down. Picking the foot up and setting it in place is alot quicker than dragging the foot into place therefore dragging the foot would leave you vulnerable for a longer time.

Get your most experienced fighter into your ring and have him throw right hands dragging the foot and then have him throw the right picking the foot up and setting it down in place. Most of the gyms that I have been to have nowhere the same padding as a competitive ring but still I gaurantee you that his foot will still be in place faster than dragging the foot and his right hands will be hitting the target faster and with more authority.

You're a good guy on here, I didn't intend to be short with you. I hope this clears things up with us. If you have any questions or rebuttals feel free to post it up. I consider you a good poster on here and respect your views. Hope it's all good man............Rockin'

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

No sweat man, I have never had any problems with you either. I think it has a lot to do with balance because like I said, more than anything it teaches good habits.

If you don't stress the movement of pushing off with the back foot and limiting the way you raise your feet when you step, you will get kids who will just "walk" and as you know, being up on either foot for a long time is no good.

One short shot and you will be sat down and in a match that can cost you the win.

I'm glad you work with young kids as well. I was recently approached to be a trainer in a pro gym but I don't know if I want to take it.