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    I know crossing you legs is a no no but we often seen it used..Usually when backing/backpedaling or in lateral movement..I have not often seen it in AN advance when closing the distance Unless their miles apart....Is this because crossing legs during advancing is particularly dangerous?..Or because Advancing is a conscious choice vs the reactive movements of avoidance. Reacting wrong can be forgiven but not choosing wrong. I'm looking at different closing styles..Working on counters for the Boring boxing tall style. That style is very dependent on carefully timing to maintaining range, closing at will and clenching in defense. I wonder if the benefit would be worth the risk..Once they lose timing the whole tall thing fall apart and they have to Fight differently..Another reason to work on my southpaw..

    I got the Idea after watching a later career Foreman..He had what I would call a tank technique..He had enough power from torso and arm movement that he could land good punches even if his legs where in the wrong position..Like a tank moving its turret one way to fire while the tracks are rolling a different way..Foreman used it probably for just energy conservation..He used it as a slow relentless advance but this crossing the leg advance also has he potential to make a very sudden movement..that has the advantage of being a lot less predictable than the Single lead leg shuffle..
    Last edited by Crushedknee; 03-30-2011, 04:55 PM. Reason: Added more

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    When I teach movement (which is the hardest thing to teach) I always teach fundamentals. Never to cross your legs no matter what we are doing. Even if we are hitting the heavy bag, hitting mitts, sparring...doesn't matter.

    Now, that's not to say it's not going to happen, no fighter is 100% technically sound. The closest I have seen to that is Finito Lopez and he is one in a million.

    You teach these things so young fighters get it drilled into their heads and it becomes habit.

    I usually don't tell the more experienced fighters not to do it if they are only doing it when moving far out of range. In other words when they are not in range of punches, they can move laterally, forward or back the way that gets them there quickest, I don't say anything about that.

    It's when they get close when the footwork has to be perfect. A fighter is never going to move technically sound ALL the time in the ring. You can watch any fighter in any fight and when out of range they do this from time to time.

    You should never cross your legs when your actually fighting though because you will get knocked down. Even the lightest punch can catch you off balance and you will fall.

    Like when Cotto hit Clottey with that jab. It was a good jab but it was more because Clottey brought his feet together and that single knock down may have cost him the fight.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
      When I teach movement (which is the hardest thing to teach) I always teach fundamentals. Never to cross your legs no matter what we are doing. Even if we are hitting the heavy bag, hitting mitts, sparring...doesn't matter.

      Now, that's not to say it's not going to happen, no fighter is 100% technically sound. The closest I have seen to that is Finito Lopez and he is one in a million.

      You teach these things so young fighters get it drilled into their heads and it becomes habit.

      I usually don't tell the more experienced fighters not to do it if they are only doing it when moving far out of range. In other words when they are not in range of punches, they can move laterally, forward or back the way that gets them there quickest, I don't say anything about that.

      It's when they get close when the footwork has to be perfect. A fighter is never going to move technically sound ALL the time in the ring. You can watch any fighter in any fight and when out of range they do this from time to time.

      You should never cross your legs when your actually fighting though because you will get knocked down. Even the lightest punch can catch you off balance and you will fall.

      Like when Cotto hit Clottey with that jab. It was a good jab but it was more because Clottey brought his feet together and that single knock down may have cost him the fight.
      wat can u say about gamboas cuban amatuer style footwork? i think donaires was also trained in the cuban amatuer style.. do u utilize it in the gym...?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Yuricane View Post
        wat can u say about gamboas cuban amatuer style footwork? i think donaires was also trained in the cuban amatuer style.. do u utilize it in the gym...?
        I was trained in Mexico, it was more of a pro style and even when I fought amateur, my trainers always said I had a pro style. To be honest I wasn't a great amateur, my record wasn't that great.

        I see all the Cuban fighters with that amateur style and think it's a great base to work from. The problem I find with the Cuban fighters is that they are a little bit behind in the pro game, especially when you compare them to Mexico and Puerto Rico.

        It's the reason Gamboa let go of his trainers early on and caught on with some more experienced pro guys which turned out to be better.

        We do utilize the amateur style because that's all I train, I don't train pro's. I work with young kids, from 10 yrs old to mid 20's. I like working with young kids because they are still green, they listen and can be moulded much better.

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