Good weights for boxing??????????

[Crushedknee]

All I have is my experience and my perspective..I don't call others ******ed,autistic,Idiots and respond to their comments with "What the **** are you talking about" You think weight lifting is the way to get punching power and punching endurance..Fine ..I'll stick to my bag work and that is my advice to anyone that asks....You wanna golf well you live for hitting that ball..Basketball you shoot that ball incessantly athletes around the world round focus on the craft of their sport more than boxers. But if you think the magic power of punching power comes from something else Some super new lift or weight..I would say your...Well your right! Except for the new part.. It come from a weight A 150 pound bag refined and distilled over hundreds of years to impart maximum balance of power and speed on punches..

[Jack3d]

First of all I never called you or anyone autistic. I said trying to talk to you guys is similar to trying to talk to someone who is because you are so narrow minded and impossible to try to reason with.

I asked you WTF you were talking about because your post initially was difficult to comprehend.

The lifts have nothing to do with being "magic" power is generated from your base. (Legs and Hips) and doing Compound Lifts and Power Cleans can help.

[BrooklynBomber]

No it doesn't

Second that.
Olympic lifters are some of the most coordinated and explosive athletes on earth.

[The Surgeon]

Weights are a GOOD thing in boxing! Its time this sport dragged its ass outta the stone age, look around, other sports are using weights and modern trainning methods and they are better for it, records are broken all the time. I mean look at the build on a sprinter

U dont wanna waste time with isolation exercises like say a bicep curl, it makes ur arm look good but wont help u, may even hinder u. But what u want to do is Explosive sets of compound movements like squats and bench.
I know dont even do long runs, i got shin splints but have found short explosive sprints with little rest are more apt for boxing anyway. I also do alot of plyometrics and i feel much better for it

Broke a finger fighting over the festives so havent been doing any punching, just more focus on Plyometrics and weight training. Today was the first time ive sparred since before X mas and i Knocked one guy who had a good 15lbs on me out. I mean he was Out. And stopped another lad with a body shot, who is normally to slippery to catch.

Point being i feel stronger faster fitter and way more explosive for all the training ive done.

Boxing should always come first tho, skills win fights more than any other attribute

[New England]

unless you're building muscles to work for 3 minutes straight
and then on a minute of rest
you're buildoing the wrong muscles for boxing

boxing is boxing and nothing else


you need physicality for boxing and nothing else if you box

anything else will slow you down
zap excess energy



some guys are saying
Bench to box!
squat to box!

you guys are foolish. unless you're benching or squatting for 12 3 min rounds you're building muscles that will tire out before the conclusion of a fight.
top tier HW's might use those excercises to prepare themselves for the loads they will deal with in their fights, but they dont use those excercises to build / add muscle. they dont use a lot of weight
and their routines will have NOTHING to do with an olympic weightlifter


you've never boxed 12 rounds if you're looking to add / build muscle. you probably havn't even watched enough 12 round boxing to base your opinion.


you need to boil down to box 12 rounds
you need to burn away muscles you dont need (by running, diet, etc)
not built them up


almost all weight training is anaerobic
especially olympic weightlifting.
those guys and girls lift something once at a time in competition

you couldnt built muscles more detrimental to a boxer if you tried.



training for boxing is a dynamic process
it has taken form not because it's written in stone, but because it works.
it does change, but it also stays the same
it works.


there have been plenty of boxers who lift weights
jeff lacy
vinnzy pazienza
shannon briggs
mike tyson late in his career

none of these guys are examples of phsyical specimens you want to emulate in boxing.


the best builds for boxing are god given

its about bones, not muscles.

[The Surgeon]

unless you're building muscles to work for 3 minutes straight
and then on a minute of rest
you're buildoing the wrong muscles for boxing

boxing is boxing and nothing else


you need physicality for boxing and nothing else if you box

anything else will slow you down
zap excess energy



some guys are saying
Bench to box!
squat to box!

you guys are foolish. unless you're benching or squatting for 12 3 min rounds you're building muscles that will tire out before the conclusion of a fight.
top tier HW's might use those excercises to prepare themselves for the loads they will deal with in their fights, but they dont use those excercises to build / add muscle. they dont use a lot of weight
and their routines will have NOTHING to do with an olympic weightlifter


you've never boxed 12 rounds if you're looking to add / build muscle. you probably havn't even watched enough 12 round boxing to base your opinion.


you need to boil down to box 12 rounds
you need to burn away muscles you dont need (by running, diet, etc)
not built them up


almost all weight training is anaerobic
especially olympic weightlifting.
those guys and girls lift something once at a time in competition

you couldnt built muscles more detrimental to a boxer if you tried.



training for boxing is a dynamic process
it has taken form not because it's written in stone, but because it works.
it does change, but it also stays the same
it works.


there have been plenty of boxers who lift weights
jeff lacy
vinnzy pazienza
shannon briggs
mike tyson late in his career

none of these guys are examples of phsyical specimens you want to emulate in boxing.


the best builds for boxing are god given

its about bones, not muscles.

David Haye is a guy who i base my training on, and he is one of the single most quick and explosive fighters on the planet.
Dont be so old skool man, u need not fear the new, the **** works.

[chris30]

****in hell, I've read all of the threads in this post and at not one point has it seemed to sink in that "Compound movements (Squat, Deadlift, Clean e.t.c.) + Heavy weights + low reps + 1 minute rest + 5 sets" = massive gains in strength with very little/no muscle gain and I am testament to this. I've noticed massive gains in the power in my legs and posterior chain through heavy lifting once per week performed on a different day to boxing training. I can also highly recommend kettlebell training for excellent muscle conditioning!! It's the 21st century lads!!

[Tomislav III]

Another idiot who associates weight lifting with building muscle and bodybuilding and points out my sig like Pro Wrestling is all I watch and is reflection of my point of view.

Is weight training necessary for a boxer? No
Can it help? Absolutely

I know a several amateur boxers and MMA fighter who after doing heavy compound exercises and Olympic lifts have improved their punching power, speed and explosiveness.


I'm so sick of arguing with people like you on the forum. It's like trying to talk to a autistic child. Boxing is about 50 years behind the times when it comes to strength and conditioning and the functions of the human body

A lot of them also gas after 3 minutes.

Most amateurs seem to lose because they can't keep up. Most UFC guys spend the majority of the fight on the ground because they have no energy left to stand.

Weight lifting can help, but it can hurt more. If you it's an either or thing, I say don't do it for anything other than the core.

[Jack3d]

unless you're building muscles to work for 3 minutes straight
and then on a minute of rest
you're buildoing the wrong muscles for boxing

anything else will slow you down
zap excess energy



some guys are saying
Bench to box!
squat to box!

you guys are foolish. unless you're benching or squatting for 12 3 min rounds you're building muscles that will tire out before the conclusion of a fight.

you need to boil down to box 12 rounds
you need to burn away muscles you dont need (by running, diet, etc)
not built them up

Nobody is talking about building muscles up. That's what you don't get

almost all weight training is anaerobic
especially olympic weightlifting.
those guys and girls lift something once at a time in competition

you couldnt built muscles more detrimental to a boxer if you tried.

[Jack3d]

training for boxing is a dynamic process
it has taken form not because it's written in stone, but because it works.
it does change, but it also stays the same
it works.

That doesn't mean there aren't better methods.

the best builds for boxing are god given

So what you are basically saying is that you should do nothing whatsoever to condition your body and just use what god gave you?

its about bones, not muscles.

WTF???