Good weights for boxing??????????

[samoram]

OK, everyone knows weight training takes away your agility/speed etc.
but what weights are good to help enhance your boxing?
using weights while doing sit ups any good?
anything else?
please wb
thanks!

[Jack3d]

OK, everyone knows weight training takes away your agility/speed etc.

No it doesn't

[TheAuthority]

OK, everyone knows weight training takes away your agility/speed etc.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried mate.

[Crushedknee]

Weight in the armor muscle is no problem.Legs I'm neutral on.I avoid like the plague touching my punching muscles with anything more than a few pounds..Symmetry and lifting is not the goal of boxers.. When I see a boxer with different muscle builds on each side I know that they have built every ounce of that muscle by punching..The perfect symmetry guys have taken to much time watching and tuning their body and not enough time maximizing Power..You want Power you Punch..a lot.

[Jack3d]

Weight in the armor muscle is no problem.Legs I'm neutral on.I avoid like the plague touching my punching muscles with anything more than a few pounds..Symmetry and lifting is not the goal of boxers.. When I see a boxer with different muscle builds on each side I know that they have built every ounce of that muscle by punching..The perfect symmetry guys have taken to much time watching and tuning their body and not enough time maximizing Power..You want Power you Punch..a lot.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Crushedknee]

I'm saying that weights don't help you hit harder..And at some point they do start to effect power and speed negatively..Using them on your core, neck, legs not such a bid deal..But the arms,shoulder girdle,chest and back need a mix of muscle that favors endurance and is O2 efficient..Classic Weight lifting does not create Oxygen efficient muscles..Otherwise Rowing athletes and Gymnast would be all over it..And their not. You get big enough doing what you compete in and the muscles are optimized for the correct motion..Course I'm talking about an Ideal.. I completely understand people trying to go up in weight and having difficult building muscle mass..We deal with deficiencies differential we correct them..But most boxers have all the muscle they can handy just by doing classic boxing training..For these boxers it not a choice of less muscles vs more but of inefficient muscle composition vs Ideal muscle composition..
Why do you have pro wrestling images..Do you think Boxing and Boxers could learn something from the power,Speed,agility and Grace from the Fine Sport of Professional Wrestling?

[New England]

Weight in the armor muscle is no problem.Legs I'm neutral on.I avoid like the plague touching my punching muscles with anything more than a few pounds..Symmetry and lifting is not the goal of boxers.. When I see a boxer with different muscle builds on each side I know that they have built every ounce of that muscle by punching..The perfect symmetry guys have taken to much time watching and tuning their body and not enough time maximizing Power..You want Power you Punch..a lot.

this guy knows somethin about it!


most heavyweights these days use weights in some way.
you need to prepare your body for the sort of loads it will have to deal with in a hard fight between big men.

i generally dont think boxers should be built up with muscle unless they are going up in weight
if they need weight (in the case of say, manny pacquiao,) boxer's shouldn't be heading to the gym and working on a "bodybuilding" type regimen, where adding weight to exercises over time is the intended result

the best way for a fighter to move around in weight classes is to outgrow a weight limit
natural size is boxing
it's much more about bones than muscles



if a fighter builds any muscles it's in his neck
and his abs

time in a gym for a top tier fighter should be about conditioning the body, and not building it.

what this dude was calling "armor," those are muscles that will protect you from damage.

[Jack3d]

I'm saying that weights don't help you hit harder..And at some point they do start to effect power and speed negatively..Using them on your core, neck, legs not such a bid deal..But the arms,shoulder girdle,chest and back need a mix of muscle that favors endurance and is O2 efficient..Classic Weight lifting does not create Oxygen efficient muscles..Otherwise Rowing athletes and Gymnast would be all over it..And their not. You get big enough doing what you compete in and the muscles are optimized for the correct motion..Course I'm talking about an Ideal.. I completely understand people trying to go up in weight and having difficult building muscle mass..We deal with deficiencies differential we correct them..But most boxers have all the muscle they can handy just by doing classic boxing training..For these boxers it not a choice of less muscles vs more but of inefficient muscle composition vs Ideal muscle composition..
Why do you have pro wrestling images..Do you think Boxing and Boxers could learn something from the power,Speed,agility and Grace from the Fine Sport of Professional Wrestling?

Another idiot who associates weight lifting with building muscle and bodybuilding and points out my sig like Pro Wrestling is all I watch and is reflection of my point of view.

Is weight training necessary for a boxer? No
Can it help? Absolutely

I know a several amateur boxers and MMA fighter who after doing heavy compound exercises and Olympic lifts have improved their punching power, speed and explosiveness.


I'm so sick of arguing with people like you on the forum. It's like trying to talk to a autistic child. Boxing is about 50 years behind the times when it comes to strength and conditioning and the functions of the human body

[Crushedknee]

"I know a several amateur boxers and MMA fighter who after doing heavy compound exercises and Olympic lifts have improved their punching power, speed and explosiveness."

Ok you don't box? ..You don't train? But you know some guys..Alright!..When have you ever been to a real Boxing Gym..You know the Kind that stinks and is filled with people with Bumpy damaged faces..Soon as MMA and pro wrestlers start pumping out world class Boxer's I'll start to take advice about their training regime..Boxing has been in existence as a Codified organized sport for Over Two millennium. It's a still sport with many practitioners. They can proudly trace their Linage to the Ancient Greek Games..I don't know how many well clad Gym rat's Ive seen Jump in the ring with a flabby rot face fighter to have his damaged ego whimper out of the gym.. Boxing has a lot to teach the willing student but that's an impossible task if you go in knowing how Out of date and wrong boxing is in the first place..

[Jack3d]

"I know a several amateur boxers and MMA fighter who after doing heavy compound exercises and Olympic lifts have improved their punching power, speed and explosiveness."

Ok you don't box? ..You don't train? But you know some guys..Alright!..When have you ever been to a real Boxing Gym..You know the Kind that stinks and is filled with people with Bumpy damaged faces..Soon as MMA and pro wrestlers start pumping out world class Boxer's I'll start to take advice about their training regime..Boxing has been in existence as a Codified organized sport for Over Two millennium. It's a still sport with many practitioners. They can proudly trace their Linage to the Ancient Greek Games..I don't know how many well clad Gym rat's Ive seen Jump in the ring with a flabby rot face fighter to have his damaged ego whimper out of the gym.. Boxing has a lot to teach the willing student but that's an impossible task if you go in knowing how Out of date and wrong boxing is in the first place..

I'm pursuing certification from the NSCA so I think I'd know more than you.

What does me being in a BOXING GYM have to do with knowledge of weight training? Are boxing trainers now certified to teach their pugilists about the functions about the human body and how to condition it? Are head boxing trainers now the foremost authority when it comes to strength and conditioning?


This has nothing to do with "well clad gym ****" boxing. Lifting weights does not = bodybuilding and building muscle. Again like so many idiots on the forum, you associate the term "weight lifting" with the likes of Ronnie Coleman musclebound freaks of nature.

I never said boxing is out of date and wrong. But Boxing's view on modern strength training practices is out of date and wrong.

You going on and on with your drivel reminiscent of an episode of HBO 24/7 doesn't make you look intelligent. You don't have a damn clue what you are talking about.