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  • Chip2006uk
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    Covering up

    How do the judges in amateur bouts usually percieve this?

    Say in an amateur fight, one guy goes in and throws a lot of punches, the other guy covers up, and although he might be getting pushed about a bit, nothing clean is really landing apart maybe a body shot here and there.

    Then the guy that covers up goes on the attack, only throws a 2 punch combo or so, but lands clean shots to the head.

    Say this pattern repeated itself throughout the whole 3 rounds, so that in the end the guy that was covering up landed more cleaner effective shots, but the other guy was just pure throwing a ton more punches but not really landing cleanly.

    How would the judges usually score this type of bout? Do they favour pure workrate or do they prefer the cleaner shots.

    Im guessing they would favour the high workrate guy, because even though he might not be landing clean it doesnt look great when the other guy is covering up?

    Also my other question is how much difference do 10oz and 16oz gloves make when it comes to covering up? When Im sparring I feel like hardly nothing can get through when I cover up, I can keep my composure and just take a ****load of shots to the arms and gloves, and then come back with my own attack. Just wondering if there is much difference with 10oz gloves? I imagine that more punches would get through the guard probably but would it be a massive difference?
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    #2
    Originally posted by Chip2006uk
    How do the judges in amateur bouts usually percieve this?

    Say in an amateur fight, one guy goes in and throws a lot of punches, the other guy covers up, and although he might be getting pushed about a bit, nothing clean is really landing apart maybe a body shot here and there.

    Then the guy that covers up goes on the attack, only throws a 2 punch combo or so, but lands clean shots to the head.

    Say this pattern repeated itself throughout the whole 3 rounds, so that in the end the guy that was covering up landed more cleaner effective shots, but the other guy was just pure throwing a ton more punches but not really landing cleanly.

    How would the judges usually score this type of bout? Do they favour pure workrate or do they prefer the cleaner shots.

    Im guessing they would favour the high workrate guy, because even though he might not be landing clean it doesnt look great when the other guy is covering up?

    Also my other question is how much difference do 10oz and 16oz gloves make when it comes to covering up? When Im sparring I feel like hardly nothing can get through when I cover up, I can keep my composure and just take a ****load of shots to the arms and gloves, and then come back with my own attack. Just wondering if there is much difference with 10oz gloves? I imagine that more punches would get through the guard probably but would it be a massive difference?
    In your scenario there, under the proper computer scoring the guy covering up wins, nearly everytime. Because punches need to be clean and noticeable to be scored, and if a guy is hitting leather and only just sneaking in odd one to the body, that will not score. I won several fights against substantially bigger and stronger guys with that gameplan.

    However in a small show in some backwood place where they are not using computer scoring, it could go either way, but I'd say even without computer scoring it generally goes to the guys covering and landing clean.

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    • Suckmedry
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      #3
      And no it isn't a massive difference between the 10 and 16oz's when covering, just pull that guard in a little tighter.

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      • Suckmedry
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        #4
        And also, that gameplan is very effectrive for winning novice and intermediate fights, however once you get to the open level, you need a bit more in your arsenal. You can still have that as your base, but you need to vary it with more headmovement and leading off.

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        • Chip2006uk
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          #5
          Nice replies man cheers!

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          • myboxingcoach
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            #6
            One More is right. For a shot to score, particularly at open competition/international standard, it needs to be a "meaningful" shot. Covering up (the double arm block) has become much more prevalent specifically because it creates doubt in the judge's mind as to whether the shot lands. However, the temptation to 'clam up' in the face of an attack should be fought off! The double arm block should be used as a platform for attack and not to hide behind!

            Here's a video article that you might enjoy:

            Boxing Techniques - The Double Arm Block.

            Enjoy your sport mate.

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            • Barn
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              #7
              You gotta throw a certain volume of punches or the fight could be stopped under "passive boixng."

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              • Suckmedry
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                #8
                Originally posted by Barnburner
                You gotta throw a certain volume of punches or the fight could be stopped under "passive boixng."
                Yeah true, but it is a very low amount, you have to pretty much do nothing for a ridiculous amount of time before getting warned. In my experience anyway.

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                • FM3O
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                  From my personal experience, which consists of only club level shows, the person throwing the volume of punches would most likely be the victor. They score by rounds where I'm at ring generalship plus just showing your going out there to control the fight plays a big part. I good friend of mine and fellow fighter uses that game plan effectively and has lost several times despite landing the cleaner punches. What everyone else said about national/international competitions with computer scoring makes sense though.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chip2006uk
                    How do the judges in amateur bouts usually percieve this?

                    Say in an amateur fight, one guy goes in and throws a lot of punches, the other guy covers up, and although he might be getting pushed about a bit, nothing clean is really landing apart maybe a body shot here and there.

                    Then the guy that covers up goes on the attack, only throws a 2 punch combo or so, but lands clean shots to the head.

                    Say this pattern repeated itself throughout the whole 3 rounds, so that in the end the guy that was covering up landed more cleaner effective shots, but the other guy was just pure throwing a ton more punches but not really landing cleanly.

                    How would the judges usually score this type of bout? Do they favour pure workrate or do they prefer the cleaner shots.

                    Im guessing they would favour the high workrate guy, because even though he might not be landing clean it doesnt look great when the other guy is covering up?

                    Also my other question is how much difference do 10oz and 16oz gloves make when it comes to covering up? When Im sparring I feel like hardly nothing can get through when I cover up, I can keep my composure and just take a ****load of shots to the arms and gloves, and then come back with my own attack. Just wondering if there is much difference with 10oz gloves? I imagine that more punches would get through the guard probably but would it be a massive difference?
                    Main problem with this strategy is that you end up like a dog that's been beat too much till you spend half your life just a'coverin' up nowwwww

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