Nature vs Nurture

[DarkTerror88]

Nature doesn't only mean athleticism. This guy in my gym has no athletic ability but he's so smart and inuituve he always finds a way to win inside of 3 rounds. After he finds that he puts his plan into motion. Using this he's beaten some of the most athletic guys around.

[Spartacus Sully]

Nature doesn't only mean athleticism. This guy in my gym has no athletic ability but he's so smart and inuituve he always finds a way to win inside of 3 rounds. After he finds that he puts his plan into motion. Using this he's beaten some of the most athletic guys around.

so really its all up to nature then?

your either born smart or your born athletic but you have to be one or the other if you want to make it?

[Wesker115]

To be honest the dualism of nature/nurture will never go away so it's best not to look at it as a dualism. Both nature and nurture are always going to play a significant part.

Natural talent will always only get someone so far on their own, you have to put in the work. This obviously applies to life in general, not just boxing.

[Aperion]

It'll always be a little of both. Look at Zab Judah - just boatloads of natural talent, and boatloads of immaturity in both himself and his trainer/father which led him to never reach his full potential.

Also, its been my experience in life people use it as an excuse of not having some kind of mythical natural-born talent, and then also end up living their lives with regrets. As in, sometimes people will not take up boxing, music, a particular job or career because the think they weren't "made" for it, personally I find that self-defeating. I am never, ever going to be able to dunk a basketball, ever, but I will always play basketball, I will always set picks that knock you on your ass, and I will always out-maneuver you to grab every single rebound - yea, even against really tall guys who think their hot ****. So, the "nature" part of anything only goes so far, you nurture the right things and you will find your own success in a given field.

It is those with the huge natural talent, that also get the right kind of nurture that make it as the all time greats, like Ali, SRR, Butterbean etc.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Relatively speaking, nature is more important than nurture when it comes to achieving greatness in a given field. Hard work is a vital ingredient, but you can't fly if you don't have wings. Degrees of natural talent, work and determination all combine to produce a result. An enormously talented athlete can be outdone by someone with less natural talent but a relentless work ethic. However, those with zero talent don't stand a chance of achieving greatness. I don't care how hard they try. On the other hand, the lazy but gifted person can learn some discipline and possibly come close to their lofty potential.

It's popular to say, "You can achieve anything you want to achieve." But it's more realistic to attach the condition "within reason". You should do what you love and enjoy with passion and dedication. It's not about being the best, but being the best you can be. There's no shame in trying and failing, only in failing to try....

[Holtol]

so really its all up to nature then?

your either born smart or your born athletic but you have to be one or the other if you want to make it?

I am not so sure about that I think you need to be nurtured the right way also. For instance if one man has more natural ability then the others but something happens and he breaks his neck and is paralyzed he wont be a good boxer.

I think the circumstances that a person is in is very important in shaping the person. For instance if a person is born with great ability in boxing but is born in Tibet and no one is interested in boxing he will not become a good boxer.

[SBleeder]

It is those with the huge natural talent, that also get the right kind of nurture that make it as the all time greats, like Ali, SRR, Butterbean etc.

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[Suckmedry]

so really its all up to nature then?

your either born smart or your born athletic but you have to be one or the other if you want to make it?

You either need to have natural athletic ability (which can span from strength, to speed, reflexes, co-ordination, ability to learn technique) or you need to be a naturally tactical thinker, or have the potential to be a tactical thinker.

An easier way to look at it is to look at successful fighters, and look at what they have.

Margarito: Obviously a very strong guy, very determined, and a great chin

JMM: A great thinker, good but not great athletic ability (strong in some areas)

Floyd: Tremendous all-round gifts

etc

[salem-no1]

I think a certain amount of natural cordination is a must , however i would say its more 25/75 favouring nurture. i think even "natural cordination" can be aquired by playing sports or doing activities which require ur whole body from a young age, so id defernatly say nurture.

However to get to the very very top of your game i think u need to be born with some natural gifts e.g fast hands, height, reach, foot speed, strengh, stamina. Most top end fighters have at least one of these atriributes which has been nurtured to an extent but the extra bit which makes them stand out is nature.

With sports like boxing i think nurture is more dominate because theres a weight class for everyone, a style for everyone and as you know the strongest, fastests guys can be out thought and out timed . However in a sport like athletics for example usain bolt he is 75% nature

[holdenk]

I think its pure will..
you can do almost anything if you really want and have the mindset to accomplish it.. okay.. there are still some other factors to be considered but pure will alone will get you very far no matter what you wanna do or try to accomplish.. most people have so much talent but no will and will fail..