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  • #21
    You must not know what everybody means so I'll break it down for you. No, go to a boxing gym. Regardless of how much your trainer may know. Do you want to train and spar against MMA fighters? That's why as previously mentioned boxers from MMA gyms rarely have success. You're going up against medicore competition with the hands. They have no real boxing movement/training. I've seen boxers from MMA gyms; they're alright with the hands but have a false sense of confidence because they may be the best at the hands in their gym but that's due to going up against medicore competition. From personal experience sparring guys at MMA gyms, they seem to throw shots at full power with ok speed and don't have the mentality of boxers. They're like robots. Anyone here who is a boxer and has sparred MMA guys know exactly what I mean. Spar with all your guys from your MMA gym and then spar maybe one or two guys from an actual boxing gym. Chances are, you'll get wrecked or you'll do ok and then wonder where all your skills went? How did I do so much better at my gym? Nobody is talking about our trainer. What they mean is actual boxing gym experience, regardless of how good your coach is and bow well you perform in standup against guys in your gym, they are not boxers. Pay attentionand listen, you came here asking for advice correct? Well there are actual fighters/boxers/people who've trained in boxing their whole life here. We know wha we're talking about. If you want to be "ok" with amateur boxing then stick to the MMA gym and spar people who are surrounded by MMA styles/movements and go ahead and get tha false sense of confidence OR get to a good boxing gym and realize that your boxing skills/movements need major improvement due to the lack of actual experience against other real boxers (not people who've been taught some hand skills but actual boxers). This has nothing to do with how good you're coach is, it has to do with your personal growth. Again, you are talking to people (some) with actual experience/knowledge in boxing. Get to a boxing gym bro, trust me.
    Last edited by {Pito}; 07-11-2010, 08:21 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by PeterTheGreat View Post
      I got most of the basics down. I have a few family members that used to be in the amateurs, and I've been in mma for a year. I'm 5'10 almost 5'11, and about 120-125 pounds. With about 26'-27 inch arm reach. Do you guys have any tips for me when I start training in September? And if I had to cut down in weight what weight would I have to cut down to?
      Basics is everything, dont try to rush into becoming Mayweather, take your time and experience will take care of you.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by ElHuracan View Post
        You must not know what everybody means so I'll break it down for you. No, go to a boxing gym. Regardless of how much your trainer may know. Do you want to train and spar against MMA fighters? That's why as previously mentioned boxers from MMA gyms rarely have success. You're going up against medicore competition with the hands. They have no real boxing movement/training. I've seen boxers from MMA gyms; they're alright with the hands but have a false sense of confidence because they may be the best at the hands in their gym but that's due to going up against medicore competition. From personal experience sparring guys at MMA gyms, they seem to throw shots at full power with ok speed and don't have the mentality of boxers. They're like robots. Anyone here who is a boxer and has sparred MMA guys know exactly what I mean. Spar with all your guys from your MMA gym and then spar maybe one or two guys from an actual boxing gym. Chances are, you'll get wrecked or you'll do ok and then wonder where all your skills went? How did I do so much better at my gym? Nobody is talking about our trainer. What they mean is actual boxing gym experience, regardless of how good your coach is and bow well you perform in standup against guys in your gym, they are not boxers. Pay attentionand listen, you came here asking for advice correct? Well there are actual fighters/boxers/people who've trained in boxing their whole life here. We know wha we're talking about. If you want to be "ok" with amateur boxing then stick to the MMA gym and spar people who are surrounded by MMA styles/movements and go ahead and get tha false sense of confidence OR get to a good boxing gym and realize that your boxing skills/movements need major improvement due to the lack of actual experience against other real boxers (not people who've been taught some hand skills but actual boxers). This has nothing to do with how good you're coach is, it has to do with your personal growth. Again, you are talking to people (some) with actual experience/knowledge in boxing. Get to a boxing gym bro, trust me.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^ good post.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ElHuracan View Post
          You must not know what everybody means so I'll break it down for you. No, go to a boxing gym. Regardless of how much your trainer may know. Do you want to train and spar against MMA fighters? That's why as previously mentioned boxers from MMA gyms rarely have success. You're going up against medicore competition with the hands. They have no real boxing movement/training. I've seen boxers from MMA gyms; they're alright with the hands but have a false sense of confidence because they may be the best at the hands in their gym but that's due to going up against medicore competition. From personal experience sparring guys at MMA gyms, they seem to throw shots at full power with ok speed and don't have the mentality of boxers. They're like robots. Anyone here who is a boxer and has sparred MMA guys know exactly what I mean. Spar with all your guys from your MMA gym and then spar maybe one or two guys from an actual boxing gym. Chances are, you'll get wrecked or you'll do ok and then wonder where all your skills went? How did I do so much better at my gym? Nobody is talking about our trainer. What they mean is actual boxing gym experience, regardless of how good your coach is and bow well you perform in standup against guys in your gym, they are not boxers. Pay attentionand listen, you came here asking for advice correct? Well there are actual fighters/boxers/people who've trained in boxing their whole life here. We know wha we're talking about. If you want to be "ok" with amateur boxing then stick to the MMA gym and spar people who are surrounded by MMA styles/movements and go ahead and get tha false sense of confidence OR get to a good boxing gym and realize that your boxing skills/movements need major improvement due to the lack of actual experience against other real boxers (not people who've been taught some hand skills but actual boxers). This has nothing to do with how good you're coach is, it has to do with your personal growth. Again, you are talking to people (some) with actual experience/knowledge in boxing. Get to a boxing gym bro, trust me.
          that's right

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          • #25
            Originally posted by PeterTheGreat View Post
            Hahaha I know what it's like to be in a MMA club geez. My trainer works with boxers all the time. He himself knows ALOT about boxing. He isn't the best at it, but he makes everyone else in the club look ****ing terrible. He taught me how to time punches, counter punch, use distance, different defensive styles. Thing's you can use in those styles. He taught me feigns, and how to clinch. He himself loves and respects boxing, but I guess his heart lies with mma. Which is the direct opposite of me. Where I like mma, but my heart lies with boxing. I've sparred with a few tomato cans there that haven't worked on boxing as much as me, and I really enjoyed it. The trainer there knows the differences between boxing and mma. He is a very smart individual.
            Although he knows boxing, his boxing is more focused in an mma format, also the only competition in your gym will be mma fighters, instead of pure boxers. Also, the clinch is not allowed in boxing, which is why refs pull them apart.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by PeterTheGreat View Post
              I got most of the basics down. I have a few family members that used to be in the amateurs, and I've been in mma for a year. I'm 5'10 almost 5'11, and about 120-125 pounds. With about 26'-27 inch arm reach. Do you guys have any tips for me when I start training in September? And if I had to cut down in weight what weight would I have to cut down to?
              I haven't read any replies, but you are VERY tall for your divison. I fight at 126 and I am 5'7, I have only fought one person taller then me in all of my fights.

              I do not know your age, but at that height and weight, you must be fairly young with a very high metabolism. Losing weight? Haha, if anything you could add some weight. Then again, if I am correct in my assumptions, gaining weight will be hard as well. Let it happen naturally.

              If you can manage that weight, and if you have any kind of fight in you, you should do very well.

              How to get into amature boxing? Goto a gym =)

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Domey View Post
                I haven't read any replies, but you are VERY tall for your divison. I fight at 126 and I am 5'7, I have only fought one person taller then me in all of my fights.

                I do not know your age, but at that height and weight, you must be fairly young with a very high metabolism. Losing weight? Haha, if anything you could add some weight. Then again, if I am correct in my assumptions, gaining weight will be hard as well. Let it happen naturally.

                If you can manage that weight, and if you have any kind of fight in you, you should do very well.

                How to get into amature boxing? Goto a gym =)
                I'm 18. Pretty old in boxing standards to just be going into a gym. But Sergio Martinez hit the gym at 20. And The Galaxy Warrior Nate Cambell Became a boxer at 27.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by ElHuracan View Post
                  You must not know what everybody means so I'll break it down for you. No, go to a boxing gym. Regardless of how much your trainer may know. Do you want to train and spar against MMA fighters? That's why as previously mentioned boxers from MMA gyms rarely have success. You're going up against medicore competition with the hands. They have no real boxing movement/training. I've seen boxers from MMA gyms; they're alright with the hands but have a false sense of confidence because they may be the best at the hands in their gym but that's due to going up against medicore competition. From personal experience sparring guys at MMA gyms, they seem to throw shots at full power with ok speed and don't have the mentality of boxers. They're like robots. Anyone here who is a boxer and has sparred MMA guys know exactly what I mean. Spar with all your guys from your MMA gym and then spar maybe one or two guys from an actual boxing gym. Chances are, you'll get wrecked or you'll do ok and then wonder where all your skills went? How did I do so much better at my gym? Nobody is talking about our trainer. What they mean is actual boxing gym experience, regardless of how good your coach is and bow well you perform in standup against guys in your gym, they are not boxers. Pay attentionand listen, you came here asking for advice correct? Well there are actual fighters/boxers/people who've trained in boxing their whole life here. We know wha we're talking about. If you want to be "ok" with amateur boxing then stick to the MMA gym and spar people who are surrounded by MMA styles/movements and go ahead and get tha false sense of confidence OR get to a good boxing gym and realize that your boxing skills/movements need major improvement due to the lack of actual experience against other real boxers (not people who've been taught some hand skills but actual boxers). This has nothing to do with how good you're coach is, it has to do with your personal growth. Again, you are talking to people (some) with actual experience/knowledge in boxing. Get to a boxing gym bro, trust me.
                  Thanks that's some great information! I don't plan on getting into amateur boxing with training from an mma club haha. That would be ridiculous. And I know what you mean about mma fighters firing their punches with 75% power. And the bad foot work. BJ Penn from the ufc got out boxed in one of last fights. The same guy Freddie Roach said to probably have had the best boxing in the ufc haha. Although the guy he had fought had a good amateur career before going into mma. The thing that was getting him was the foot work and lateral movement. I've watched a lot of Malinaggi fights even though hes not great and I have kinda taught myself to be a mover. My coach told me that punching with speed is like making your hands as light as possible, and to get them back as fast as possible or your opponent will follow your punch back with a counter punch. I know I need to get into a boxing gym to even consider going into amateur boxing. Thinking otherwise is pretty uh, for the lack of a better word ******.

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                  • #29
                    MMA is huge here in Minnesota, and I very often go to MMA gyms for sparring (I get paid to do so on most occasions), and one thing I've noticed is that MMA fighters are scared to strike outside of the longer ranges. They can't fight in close because they are not taught to do so in their sport, rendering the need for inside and mid range boxing useless. I actually started out at an MMA gym for the first 6 months. A gym called A.S.M.A. here that had a boxing instructor, who I believed DID know a lot about boxing and acted so, but as soon as I had my first fight, I got my ass whooped, and hard. That's because I was boxing at MMA standards. Now I train out of the best gym in Minnesota, Circle of Discipline, with fighters who are highly ranked in their weight divisions and are well known in the AM's, and trust me, I've seen the difference. It's so much different that now my old gym has me come down and give them pointers on the kids who want to get into boxing through an MMA gym. It may not feel like it, but the differences are drastic. When you've got a trainer who focuses on MMA more than boxing, it's not a reliable trainer. The trainers you need are the ones who eat, sleep, and **** boxing. I've helped train with fighters out of gyms with Sergio Cunha, and Minnesota Martial Arts Academy. I even had the privilege of sparring Sean Sherk, who's a big MMA fighter here in Minnesota and was on the UFC level. I only mention this because I've been around, I've seen both sides to both training. El Huracan explains it perfectly.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out View Post
                      MMA is huge here in Minnesota, and I very often go to MMA gyms for sparring (I get paid to do so on most occasions), and one thing I've noticed is that MMA fighters are scared to strike outside of the longer ranges. They can't fight in close because they are not taught to do so in their sport, rendering the need for inside and mid range boxing useless. I actually started out at an MMA gym for the first 6 months. A gym called A.S.M.A. here that had a boxing instructor, who I believed DID know a lot about boxing and acted so, but as soon as I had my first fight, I got my ass whooped, and hard. That's because I was boxing at MMA standards. Now I train out of the best gym in Minnesota, Circle of Discipline, with fighters who are highly ranked in their weight divisions and are well known in the AM's, and trust me, I've seen the difference. It's so much different that now my old gym has me come down and give them pointers on the kids who want to get into boxing through an MMA gym. It may not feel like it, but the differences are drastic. When you've got a trainer who focuses on MMA more than boxing, it's not a reliable trainer. The trainers you need are the ones who eat, sleep, and **** boxing. I've helped train with fighters out of gyms with Sergio Cunha, and Minnesota Martial Arts Academy. I even had the privilege of sparring Sean Sherk, who's a big MMA fighter here in Minnesota and was on the UFC level. I only mention this because I've been around, I've seen both sides to both training. El Huracan explains it perfectly.
                      Thanks! That's some good stuff. It sounds like you have a lot of experience!

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