Workouts for the weaklings

[Spartacus Sully]

Heres a good manual from bob fitzsimmons back in 1901 so its got some really outdated stuff but its got alot of good information too.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ODY...page&q&f=false

[The Stretch]

Well... I just came back from a 5 mile jog... I think I over did it a little bit.

I'm now going to attempt to do 100 push ups and sit ups. Wish me luck.

[T.Horton]

Well... I just came back from a 5 mile jog... I think I over did it a little bit.

I'm now going to attempt to do 100 push ups and sit ups. Wish me luck.

You ran the whole five miles? Start off doing your push-ups and sit-ups in sets - I know it seems like an obvious thing but you'd be surprised at how many people balk at having do certain exercises because they think they have to do them all at once. Start by doing sets of twenty for example. In a couple of weeks do sets of thirty and so on.

[#1Assassin]

any bad habits you learn will be straightened out at a gym with in a month assuming you continue to work hard.

thats not true at all, bad habits take much, much, MUCH longer time to get out of your system. could take up to a year if u are making alot of mistakes, which u will if u try to learn how to box on your own.

i can tell u dont know alot about boxing, thats fine everyone starts from nothing, but u cant learn without an actual trainer by your side. u need someone to tell u what u are doing right and wrong, and u will do things wrong at first, everyone does. its gonna be hard and confusing, u need someone to guide u through it or all u will do is create roadblocks for yourself.

Ruby Robert doesnt know what the hell hes talking about, One more round does, listen to him.

Sorry but to become a fighter, you need to get to a gym. You say you are moving to Florida? I'm sure there would be plenty of gyms there. My advice would be to start running, start with 2 miles and build up to 4. Keep a steady pace and push yourself. After a few weeks start doing sprints, like one lap of a football field or running track, then rest for 30 seconds and repeat 4-5 times. Also start doing as many pushups and situps as you can in sets of 10 or 20 (then build up gradually)

Keep doing that, running and doing push-ups/situps at least every other day, until you move to Florida. That should have you in solid enough shape and you will be ready to learn boxing at a proper gym when you get near one. (hopefully in Florida)

I would forget the heavy bag, forget punching at all until you get to a gym and learn it properly, doing it yourself will build bad habits that will take considerable time to erase.

Maybe use the jumping rope a bit too, go for as long as you can and build up.

Bascially I'm saying just get in shape with running and bodyweight exercises, until you move and hopefully get within reach of a gym.

^^^co sign.. this is the truth.

btw i was in almost the EXCACT same spot you are in a few years back. 16, a bit taller and skinnier but wanted to box and become a pro. i had no way to get to a gym, wanted to be exactly like tommy hearns and was just desperate for the chance to learn how to box. the first day i entered a gym was the best day of my life

one thing i can add to One more rounds post is to watch boxing. watch as much boxing as u can, u dont have to try to do what they do, just watch and study. start learning the mechanics of the sweet science so that u have an understanding of how the game works from the first time u step foot in a gym. know the various styles and how to adapt to them and a few tricks aswell. it will benefit u greatly and help make up for this time when u cant get to a boxing gym.

when i started boxing at 17 i had watched boxing for years, and bcuz of it i picked up alot quicker than all the other guys. had my first fight after 4 months.

[Spartacus Sully]

thats not true at all, bad habits take much, much, MUCH longer time to get out of your system. could take up to a year if u are making alot of mistakes, which u will if u try to learn how to box on your own.

i can tell u dont know alot about boxing, thats fine everyone starts from nothing, but u cant learn without an actual trainer by your side. u need someone to tell u what u are doing right and wrong, and u will do things wrong at first, everyone does. its gonna be hard and confusing, u need someone to guide u through it or all u will do is create roadblocks for yourself.

Ruby Robert doesnt know what the hell hes talking about, One more round does, listen to him.

mistakes? so how long from when you started boxing till when you stopped making any mistakes? When did your coach stop having anything to say?

[#1Assassin]

mistakes? so how long from when you started boxing till when you stopped making any mistakes? When did your coach stop having anything to say?

u know what i meant

not small mistakes as in misjudging distance or missing a punch, everyone makes those mistakes. im talking about mistakes in the entire way u train. within maybe 8 months i could shadowbox, hit the bags etc without someone looking over my shoulder and still improve rather than just build bad habits.

by then i had my stance and the basics down. i kept my hands up, my chin down, elbows tucked, knees bent, stayed on the balls on my feet, didnt square up or telegraph my punches etc.

when i started i didnt do none of that right and if someone wasnt there to constantly remind me i would have made it instinct, in other words taught myself the wrong thing which would later take ten times the effort to fix.

so i would be doing nothing but hurting my progress, today i still do minor mistakes but they dont make me pick up bad habits.

[Spartacus Sully]

u know what i meant

not small mistakes as in misjudging distance or missing a punch, everyone makes those mistakes. im talking about mistakes in the entire way u train. within maybe 8 months i could shadowbox, hit the bags etc without someone looking over my shoulder and still improve rather than just build bad habits.

by then i had my stance and the basics down. i kept my hands up, my chin down, elbows tucked, knees bent, stayed on the balls on my feet, didnt square up or telegraph my punches etc.

when i started i didnt do none of that right and if someone wasnt there to constantly remind me i would have made it instinct, in other words taught myself the wrong thing which would later take ten times the effort to fix.

so i would be doing nothing but hurting my progress, today i still do minor mistakes but they dont make me pick up bad habits.

so my point is that it took you 8 months as opposed to the year that you estimated it would take some one that was doing absolutely everything wrong. and im sure you worked very hard to get all that down in 8 months while im sure some people are still working on it after a year even with out creating tons of bad habits.

as far as repeating the mistakes and doing them out of instinct this is the point of educating your self in everything that you can allways recording your self on video camera so you can critique everything you do and constantly work on it. some one that works hard teaches them self what to do and constantly critiques them self im sure could cut the 8 months in half if not alll the way down to a month where as someone thats doing absolutely everything wrong is only looking at a year instead of 8 months.

[Yael The Great]

so my point is that it took you 8 months as opposed to the year that you estimated it would take some one that was doing absolutely everything wrong. and im sure you worked very hard to get all that down in 8 months while im sure some people are still working on it after a year even with out creating tons of bad habits.

as far as repeating the mistakes and doing them out of instinct this is the point of educating your self in everything that you can allways recording your self on video camera so you can critique everything you do and constantly work on it. some one that works hard teaches them self what to do and constantly critiques them self im sure could cut the 8 months in half if not alll the way down to a month where as someone thats doing absolutely everything wrong is only looking at a year instead of 8 months.

What is the point of video taping and then critiqing your self when he obviously not a trainer and does not now what should and shpuld not look right. Instead of telling him to buy equipment he will misuse, just tell him to do roadwork, get in shape, and when you move to Florida you will be in good shape and ready for boxing training. There has never been a good or succesfull boxer that taught himself.

[Spartacus Sully]

What is the point of video taping and then critiqing your self when he obviously not a trainer and does not now what should and shpuld not look right. Instead of telling him to buy equipment he will misuse, just tell him to do roadwork, get in shape, and when you move to Florida you will be in good shape and ready for boxing training. There has never been a good or succesfull boxer that taught himself.

The training which Fitz believes in differs from training the training of the average fighter. First of all he trains himself. He takes his own advice and regulates his own work and diet.

"I'll do no more 18 or 20 mile runs" he said in his initial week's work. "I'll start off and run six or eight miles and then I'll walk back at a good nice gait. Next day I'll walk out my distance and run back. Another day I'll run a mile and walk a mile, alternating for 10 or 15 miles. Another day I'll follow the telegraph poles. I'll run at a top speed between two poles, then walk between the next two". http://www.fitzsimmons.co.nz/html/info.html

all you need is a source of information (internet) some good advice (forums) intelligence/common sense and hard work.

and plus id imagine if hes going to get into boxing he would want to get the equipment at some time.

[Suckmedry]

Heres a good manual from bob fitzsimmons back in 1901 so its got some really outdated stuff but its got alot of good information too.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ODY...page&q&f=false

For ****s sake. 1901? Really? There is such a thing as progress.