Fighter's Heaven (Ali's Training Camp)

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  • JudeTheObscure
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    Fighter's Heaven (Ali's Training Camp)

    This month I had the honor- at least for me- of venturing up to Muhammad Ali's Deer Lake Training Camp. After watching the recent ESPN doc "Muhammad & Larry", I started to wonder what the state of the camp was, and, to my great appreciation, it's pretty intact. I called up the owner and arranged a private tour.

    Being a longtime Ali fan/collector/supporter, it was almost a religious pilgrimage, and incredibly moving. Not every boxing fan will feel that way, but even so, this place is historic. Basically, from 1972 to 1981, Ali trained for nearly every fight of his career. Everyone from Elvis to Michael Jackson came and stayed in the camp.

    The point is, it's 95 % likely to be closing at the end of this year, after a sale. The cabins will be knocked down, the rocks with fighter's names on them (painted by Cassius Clay Sr.) will be destroyed, and, apparently, new real estate will go up. Noone cares about historic places where money and real estate is concerned.

    I suggested to the owner that a donation website could be set up- but he said it was doubtful. So, alright. We won't focus on that. Instead, I wanted to suggest, any Ali fan or boxing historian- you should really consider travelling to this camp before the Autumn is over. I'm even considering seeing if a bunch of boxing fans would want to chip in and stay a weekend... just to be there once, before it's gone, is something to remember, and a great lifetime experience. So, is anyone interested in going? ***********
  • JudeTheObscure
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    an I apoligize for over-sized pics... new at this, and using the gal's *********** account.

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    • JudeTheObscure
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      #3
      some more pics.. again, i apoligize for the largeness. Ali Camp 2

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      • JudeTheObscure
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        i took alot more dynamic shots, but for context, here are these. and i'll hold off from posting anymore for now, lest i bore the lot of you:

        Ali Camp 3

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        • dreaded_FIST
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          #5
          Cool stuff.....

          did u ever meet ali?

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          • JudeTheObscure
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            No sir, but I intend to if he does any more charity events this year. I'm planning on having lunch with Larry Holmes this spring, and I've hung out with Joe Frazier... hope to see him again this summer, too.

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            • Danny Gunz
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              #7
              what state is the training camp in?

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              • JudeTheObscure
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                by "state", do you mean condition, or the actual state? It's in Deer Lake, Pennsylvania... maybe about an hour from Lancaster, an hour from Reading, depending on traffic.

                condition-wise, it's in amazing condition. this mostly stems from the fact that its been made into a bed & breakfast by master george dillman, who is/was a martial arts instructor who was friends and trained with Ali in the 1970s. they frequently have martial art training camps there, as i understand it. Ali's cabin and all the cabins, the kitchen, etc. al are still the way they were when Ali used it.

                for a good look at the training camp- it's pretty much exactly the same as you'll see it in this- get ESPN's 30 for 30 special 'Muhammad & Larry', which shows alot of action on the training camp.. you get a feel for it. i downloaded the entire documentary on iTunes, actually.

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                • TheTruthIs
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                  would love to but doubt it possible b4 it closes. really enjoy the shared experience about it and pics tho. More plz if you have them.

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                  • Chex31
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                    #10
                    Got anymore pics?

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