Kickboxing Should Be Called Kicking

[F l i c k e r]

Well, you have to consider that kicks cause more damage. They are also scored alot higher than punches. So what would you focus on if you were kickboxing? Punches or your kicks?

Boxing is all hands, so you focus alot more on one thing. Where kickboxing needs multiple things to train, so you don't have all the time in the world to focus into your punching. Not when kicks are scored higher.


You want to see good hands from a kickboxer? Watch Masato or Artur Kyshenko.

[envirocopy512]

That's the thing though. I honestly don't think kicks cause more damage.

[Phenomkidd]

...Kicks generate MUCH more power than punches.

[envirocopy512]

...Kicks generate MUCH more power than punches.

and they're also more easily evaded than punches, especially when aimed at the head. what good is the additional power a kick generates if its not half as accurate as a punch?

[Phenomkidd]

No they're not more easily evaded, especially when aimed to the lower body. Aside from that, that wasn't your statement. You said they do not cause as much DAMAGE.

[envirocopy512]

No they're not more easily evaded, especially when aimed to the lower body. Aside from that, that wasn't your statement. You said they do not cause as much DAMAGE.

isn't hitting your target accurately perhaps the single most important factor in inducing damage? What good is a HEAR ME ROAR headkick that just hits the outside of a guy's gloves? I've stated my opinion numerous times--punches easily sneak through gloves, kicks don't.

As for kicking the body, that's less accurate too. if a guy has his elbows in, the kick can't really hit the body cleanly. a punch can find openings though. the kick can hope to break the guy's arm, and it does happen, but this is not a dependable enough strategy imo.

[Phenomkidd]

Did you forget the lower body includes the legs? Your first paragraph also has no real meaning since you don't have to kick someone in the head. Punches also don't easily sneak through.

[envirocopy512]

Did you forget the lower body includes the legs? Your first paragraph also has no real meaning since you don't have to kick someone in the head. Punches also don't easily sneak through.

Leg kicks are an effective tool, but they rarely end fights on their own, unlike punches. I do think they are a good way to mix things up. But they're also easily blocked, which risks injury to the guy throwing the kick.

My opinion remains that punches are more damaging than kicks, but that doesn't mean I think kicks have no place in things. A guy can't solely box his way through a kickboxing match or he'll become predictable, so kicks, while imo less effective in ending the fight, do play a role in creating that unpredictability. This is my overall view of things.

[Pork Chop]

setting up your kicks with your hands is all but a requirement these days, even for leg kicks (which is why guys like Gonzaga and Maia have eaten the canvas throwing lead off kicks).

it's like a cross - powerful and effective, but if you don't use the tool the right way, it'll be neither.

one tactic i always liked was knocking a guy's guard away before i blast them with a head kick. even just slapping their arm into the path of a kick will be effective, because their initial reaction will be to retract their arm - not to brace against the kick.

if i notice i've got a boxer who likes to use head movement to avoid my hands, I'll set him up for a head kick. i'm a southie, so i'll jab - but on the left side of their face (his right) and follow up immediately with a switch kick. The jab will get them to slip a lot of times and block their vision so they can't really see what i'm doing. i've caught a few guys with the switch kick after.

it's kinda ugly but I actually like to punch to the body and follow up with a headkick over - so a nasty cross to the body to get them to drop their guard & dig their elbows in, just as i fire the rear leg head kick over top.

a lot of thais use "cracking the shell" if they got a guy who has a tight defense against head kicks. They kick the same spot over & over & over. This is how LeBanner's arm was shattered against Hoost. Krauss and Souwer seem to have developed an immunity to the tactic, but they've had some bad nights where their arms took a lot of damage.

I've been rocked by a punch or two in my day; a rabbit punch dropped me to my knee for a split second, but i've had broken bones from kicks & knees. So you're not going to convince me that punches are more damaging.

[Eric Holder]

I see Masato's already been mentioned

Giorgio Petrosyan and Albert Kraus also have some nice boxing ability