Very good post.. Not too many people think about the art behind clinching. That is true how you talked about them maniacs who just come in with everthing they have, throwing any punch they can.. People like that, there is no need to try and out-manuever them. That is easier said than done. Wear them down, get them angry, throw them off their "game plan" and then just unleash.
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BTW, the whole reason I wrote this thread was because of the video in the second post of this.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=76341
I felt so bad for the kid, he had no idea what to do, but gosh dang he was trying his little heart out to be technichal and avoid that guys punches, but he was just overwhelmed with sheer pressure and no technichal savvy.
Just reminding people that there is a defense against this, get inside and clinch that mother biscuit! Then work up from there to inside fighting and what have you.
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if a big bulldog like guy tryed to rush me what to do is simple.....knock him out.
the only reason a technical fighter chooses to fight defencivly is because he knows that one decent punch can either break a jaw/rib cage or turn his lights off.
i would say practise your power shots, hit him hard with the jab and right cross and make him think twice before wanting to rush you and make him pay when he does.
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Originally posted by cameronpaul View Postif a big bulldog like guy tryed to rush me what to do is simple.....knock him out.
the only reason a technical fighter chooses to fight defencivly is because he knows that one decent punch can either break a jaw/rib cage or turn his lights off.
i would say practise your power shots, hit him hard with the jab and right cross and make him think twice before wanting to rush you and make him pay when he does.
When a fighter who is almost exclusively front foot gets nailed and hurt badly, messes their whole gameplan up.
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Great post man. This is something I hadn't actually considered and I may try a few clinches tonight. There's 2 guys at my gym I constantly spar with. One tends to push and shove and throw huge hooks while the other likes to move forward with straight punches thrown at full speed. I have a harder time with the second guy just due to his speed so this may be a good way to counter that.
Not saying all I'm gonna do is clinch, but it's nice to be able to mix it up.
I do have a question though. Someone said that you lose points for clinching in amateur fights, but is that for excessive clinching or clinching in general?
I'm training for my first amateur match and I have a feeling that I'll end up going with someone who will go all out and just rush me. Just need to know if I'll be able to clinch here and there or if I'll just have to figure out another way to get around that.
Thanks again!
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Originally posted by Skuzzles View PostGreat post man. This is something I hadn't actually considered and I may try a few clinches tonight. There's 2 guys at my gym I constantly spar with. One tends to push and shove and throw huge hooks while the other likes to move forward with straight punches thrown at full speed. I have a harder time with the second guy just due to his speed so this may be a good way to counter that.
Not saying all I'm gonna do is clinch, but it's nice to be able to mix it up.
I do have a question though. Someone said that you lose points for clinching in amateur fights, but is that for excessive clinching or clinching in general?
I'm training for my first amateur match and I have a feeling that I'll end up going with someone who will go all out and just rush me. Just need to know if I'll be able to clinch here and there or if I'll just have to figure out another way to get around that.
Thanks again!
In this case, make sure to try two things, see what works for you. Once you clinch, if he wants to get broken up and not shake you off, release him, throw a few inside shots to his body and a few uppercuts, push into him with your shoulder. This keeps him from getting the momentum to move forward.
The second, while clinching, if he decides to try and move or keep hitting you, either try to pivot off to your side to get him off balance, then let go, jab jab and move back to set yourself. This will both protect you from him coming straight forward, and not run out the clock, or even look that dirty. Just make sure you dont hang on too long, and make sure he is off balance when you let go, because if he isnt, he will start right where he left off swinging for your head.
Try either of these when you spar, see if they work for you like they work for me.
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Originally posted by Double Jab View PostBernard Hopkins is the master of this science. He does it just dirty enough to cause damage, but stops before points are taken away. He is like a boxing connoisseur's fine wine.
Also, one other thing I forgot to mention, if anyone is familiar with the UFC, Randy Couture defeated a 20 year old southpaw boxing style steroided beast named Vitor Belfort, using clinch and hit.
Vitor Belfort was crazy scary, round 8% bodyfat at 210, hand speed around the same as a professional boxers, and the ferocity of a pitbull with an itchy nutsack. He was knocking out people left and right, and the one who stopped him, was Randy couture, a 37 (at the time) year old, greco roman champion, wearing him out and down. Worth a look.
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