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  • #51
    Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound View Post
    I don't see how you can pick two links for Marathon Runners and use that as your sticking point, and be serious about it. Tons of athletes do squats.

    -Usain Bolt does heavy squats

    -Michael Vick (a very explosive QB in his prime did Squats)

    -Miles Austin a beast of a Wide Receiver does heavy squats

    -Brian Cushing does Heavy Squats and he did the 3 cone drill at the combine faster than half of the wide recivers and has a higher vertical jump than most of them as well.

    -Mike Tyson did Squats

    -I'm sure there are plenty of boxers who do them as well.


    -Crossfitters, some of the fittest people in the world do squats

    and an I'll leave this with a quote from one of the best strength coaches around today






    ...And???

    I don't know if anybody knows but there are better ways to train nowadays, we don't have to train like rocky anymore.
    naturally a rugby player and a runner like usain bolt do squats, one's gonna have a heavy load on there shoulders and try to push through it
    the other is gonna want a big boost to kick start his running
    and those squats didn't seem to help tyson

    still think it's pointless for boxing, sorry

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    • #52
      calisthenics=endured
      proper weight lifting=strong

      calisthenics+ proper weight lifting = endured and strong

      its very simple.

      if you do PROPER weight training in which you do not suppress your endurance or range of motion that there is only positive...

      there have been so many advancements in weight training.

      here are two more world class athletes who harness weight training who are ENDURED.

      Lance Armstrong
      http://www.livestrong.com/video/5189...ining-workout/
      Michael Phelps
      http://outside.away.com/outside/body...el-phelps.html




      Ill be looking up more.

      Please tell me those guys are not well rounded balanced athletes
      Last edited by MidnightSpecial; 01-13-2010, 06:33 PM.

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      • #53
        "holy****" obviously you didn't understand my point. People will say blah is his natural weight class then when he moves up he suddenly gets a new natural weight class. I also don't even like saying its their natural weight class, because they cut to get there.

        Well I'm pretty sure juvie is for young criminals, so then I would say yes if you read my post.

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        • #54
          You're so narrow minded its not even funny...

          You're one of those guys who ridicule others train of thoughts believing you are right when in fact you are wrong. Had an experiance like that this week based on law/business cases where I oppossed the popular consensus and factored in more probable information than whats on the black and white yet I got called narrow-minded and they felt they were right till my teacher told them I was being broad-minded and considering other possibilities. People just don't understand till a certain point I guess.

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          • #55
            i am naturally 190-200

            if i boxed i would fight at 175.

            so is 175 my natural weight? no

            so many of you have it in your skulls that:

            Weight training= mass

            True through natural hormones you get naturally a little bigger but if you keep on the proper diet and running you will keep weight down while you gain strength.

            Explosive ablities not needed in boxing??? are you kidding me?!

            Boxing is one of the most explosive sports in the business.

            "get off quicker than your opponent" that is the epitome of explosive movement.

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            • #56
              wait, so you two actually believe you can get the best most suitable weight for your frames through weight lifting? hahahaha, now i've heard it all

              the natural weight for the frame of most people should leave them lean, ripped and strong
              it's gonna be pretty tough getting that if all you do is weight lift

              if you want heavy hands you can always use dumbells, but what im sayin is, one arm pushups are just as useful plus they work out your whole body not just your arms, so it's a fuller workout

              and when did i say explosive abilities not needed in boxing by the way? can you point me to that? i said squats with weights, your not gonna get down far enough to be able to utilize that little kick start, plus it'd be pretty useless in boxing considering your not allowed to ram into people, you have to punch them

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              • #57
                Your logic sucks...

                You're telling me calisthenics by itself will leave you ripped and cut. Sorry sir, thats the duty of cardio. NOT RESISTANCE training by BODY weight or ANY means.

                Bench press when done certain ways is total body as well. I will gain more strength benching and squatting then I ever will with push ups. Moving you're body up and down fast requires a bit of explosiveness.

                You think old school boxing training can make you the best fighter you can be, haha now I've heard it all...

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post

                  and when did i say explosive abilities not needed in boxing by the way? can you point me to that? i said squats with weights, your not gonna get down far enough to be able to utilize that little kick start, plus it'd be pretty useless in boxing considering your not allowed to ram into people, you have to punch them
                  Now I know you're an idiot.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
                    wait, so you two actually believe you can get the best most suitable weight for your frames through weight lifting? hahahaha, now i've heard it all

                    the natural weight for the frame of most people should leave them lean, ripped and strong
                    it's gonna be pretty tough getting that if all you do is weight lift

                    if you want heavy hands you can always use dumbells, but what im sayin is, one arm pushups are just as useful plus they work out your whole body not just your arms, so it's a fuller workout

                    and when did i say explosive abilities not needed in boxing by the way? can you point me to that? i said squats with weights, your not gonna get down far enough to be able to utilize that little kick start, plus it'd be pretty useless in boxing considering your not allowed to ram into people, you have to punch them
                    Just stop! Your logic gets progressively ******er with every post!

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                    • #60
                      Anyone who still believes that weight training isn't good for any athlete seriously needs to do their research and see how just about every major athlete uses weight training in some form in their training.

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