Wow, I didnt realize there so many benifets to lifting weights........

[MidnightSpecial]

Some great explosive weight training workouts:

Dumbbell snatch


Hang Clean


Rows


there are many more just search around.

BTW you should notice all of these guys are not huge. They are normal athletic guys.

[Phenomkidd]

power lifting routines will make you bigger and stronger. it will also make you faster for the very short period of time you are explosive.

light weights long reps will make you stronger and keep you the same size. it will also make you just about as fast as a power lifter exploding but at any time you want to be fast you dont have to warm up for it or gather your strength. if your fast on your feet and train with say jumping rope and running every day your going to be able to continually close the gap and put on pressure.

if you train with squats every day your going to be able to lunge at the guy and attempt a take down about 10 times every round.

i compare weight lifting to the sulfur in a strike anywhere match head. its not whats giving you the flame but it makes it a hell of a lot easier to light it.

an intelligent boxer would keep calistentics and boxing training as the meat and potatoes but add some weight lifting as bread and butter.

What're you on about, being explosive occurs in a movement, that movement is usually quick, being quick for that moment is all you need. I don't see how you can be explosive in non-explosive movements.

Light weights will make you stronger and MUCH MUCH slower pace and with high reps I assume you're talking up there like around 14 and such, which would help muscular endurance. I train low reps and heavy weight and I don't need to get warmed up for an explosive movement, I don't know where you got that from. Explosiveness is something you build, cardio is what you use to keep doing it. You can train high reps all day but you won't do jack in the long run w/o cardio. I do calisthenics for muscular endurance and weight lifting for strength, cardio so I can use what I've gained.

[Spartacus Sully]

What're you on about, being explosive occurs in a movement, that movement is usually quick, being quick for that moment is all you need. I don't see how you can be explosive in non-explosive movements.

Light weights will make you stronger and MUCH MUCH slower pace and with high reps I assume you're talking up there like around 14 and such, which would help muscular endurance. I train low reps and heavy weight and I don't need to get warmed up for an explosive movement, I don't know where you got that from. Explosiveness is something you build, cardio is what you use to keep doing it. You can train high reps all day but you won't do jack in the long run w/o cardio. I do calisthenics for muscular endurance and weight lifting for strength, cardio so I can use what I've gained.

Im saying alot of people just lift heavy weights and run, at no point in time are they increasing lactic acid threshold or increasing atp re-synthysis as well they are actually decreasing the amount of oxygen able to be stored in the muscle at any given time by training it in the direction of a fast twitch muscle.

the people that do this screw over their entire upper body, any kind of continual non static movement (throwing 200 punches a round) exhausts any muscles involved in record time regardless of cardio. you can see this in mma when 2 people go into an all out punching match that lasts 30 seconds and ends up with the 2 guys forgetting how to punch half way through then falling on each other compared to boxing where it lasts 4 rounds and the 2 guys just step away and start to be more defensive.

not that you shouldn't lift weights just that you should train the upper body boxing muscles in the same way running trains your lower body. with things like 6 sets of 40 rep at 20-40% your 1 rep max. (not 14)

as well if you include once a week of training for strength and explosiveness with something like 5*5 super sets or whatever it will help you go faster and stronger in the rest of your training but since your going faster and stronger your endurance will drastically decrease so you should really only do these things once a week that way all the other training you do will keep you improving your endurance or stamina while the once a week weight lifting helps you continually get stronger at a much quicker rate.

and warm up was a bad word choice its more of a preperation where you build of your strength then explode.

[SplitSecond]

weight lifting will keep building you up
you'll easily find your natural body weight through calisthenics

and doin squats with weights doesn't help for boxing, i'd understand if your a rugby player or somethin, add some resistance to yoru shoulders as you push a tire, yea, it'll get you ready to keep moving when there is huge amounts of pressure on you pushing you the other way

when is a boxer gonna need that?
and doin squats with weights defienetly does not help your leaping capabilities as broly puts it, actualy practicing leaping(calisthenics) will help you with your leaping/lunges....whtever you wanna call it man

[doomer36]

Its quite amazing how much information some people can give on a subject that obviously they have no ****ing clue about.

[Spartacus Sully]

Its quite amazing how much information some people can give on a subject that obviously they have no ****ing clue about.

So whats your opinion on weights?

[MidnightSpecial]

weight lifting will keep building you up
you'll easily find your natural body weight through calisthenics

and doin squats with weights doesn't help for boxing, i'd understand if your a rugby player or somethin, add some resistance to yoru shoulders as you push a tire, yea, it'll get you ready to keep moving when there is huge amounts of pressure on you pushing you the other way

when is a boxer gonna need that?
and doin squats with weights defienetly does not help your leaping capabilities as broly puts it, actualy practicing leaping(calisthenics) will help you with your leaping/lunges....whtever you wanna call it man

is that why squats and lunges are usually the norm for most boxers most of which heavyweights

Mike Tyson had an extensive weight training regime, which he did A LOT of squats. He was also the epitome of power with speed.


a squat will strengthen your legs so that when your skinny ass gets tapped on the jaw your legs wont get wobbly.

Squats are harnessed by all athletes including endurance athletes.

here at Miss. St. i see the track athletes in the gym doing leg workouts including squats. I dont think their very seasoned coach would allow this unless it helped.

WEIGHT TRAINING DOES NOT EQUAL MASS

STRENGTH DOES NOT EQUAL MASS

WEIGHT TRAINING=STRENGTH THATS IT!!!

just because most of the gym **** you see around are big lumbering dumbasses doesnt mean **** for an opinion because more than half the people who weight train dont know **** or how to do it right.


i have a weekly regime i change up every 2 weeks to keep balanced.

i havnt changed weight in 2 or 3 years and my reps and power have increased steadily.

My forty times have increased on top of my endurance.

Im not a boxer(no boxing gym near by) but i use alot of boxing training. when i first started doing intervals i could only last like 5 rounds shadowboxing. With correct weight training i now shadow box for 12 rounds. On top of that through EXPLOSIVE workouts i have increased my hand speed dramatically.

I also do alot of calisthenics but with the proper weight training also

[Spartacus Sully]

is that why squats and lunges are usually the norm for most boxers most of which heavyweights

Mike Tyson had an extensive weight training regime, which he did A LOT of squats. He was also the epitome of power with speed.


a squat will strengthen your legs so that when your skinny ass gets tapped on the jaw your legs wont get wobbly.

Squats are harnessed by all athletes including endurance athletes.

here at Miss. St. i see the track athletes in the gym doing leg workouts including squats. I dont think their very seasoned coach would allow this unless it helped.

WEIGHT TRAINING DOES NOT EQUAL MASS

http://www.halhigdon.com/marathon/ad.../advanced1.htm

i dont really see anything about squats.

http://www.halhigdon.com/ultramarathon/schedule.html

nothing here either. what going on these are 2 highly advanced training routines used by endurance athletes and nothing about weights let alone squats.

you know that the greeks knew that the earth was round they even knew how round it was with in 1000 miles then along come the Christians and their flat earth for 1500 years.

[Richie-G]

i dont think you can argue that weights are bad for boxing.... before i started using weights i was considered a pretty weak boxer...... i started doing the big compound lifts and started getting stronger, i hit much harder although i am by no means a ****er. i thik they are great, just as long as they dont interfere with your roadwork, as i beleive cardio is defintetely more important for boxing.

[old cat]

What are you reporting from the 1950's?

Get with the times and stop with the disinformation.

Says the 21 year old KID. LOL