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  • VipersThunder
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    Originally posted by The Gully Gad View Post
    Lads first off upmost respect for dropping knowledge plus scaring *** outta me lol

    Im a bit crazy lads i just rushed into it head first just now im seeing results from my training so i upped it with the roids just enough to gain weight and then i was gonna come off it altogether just by not taking it..I know nothing about post cycle etc im ignorant to that i was just gonna stop once i saw results...

    Ive only been on them a week so from the info im getting here its no good...

    Viper thanks for the knowledge mate and Silva for taking the time..
    Viper im doing the protien shakes mate its helping i added a stone on its just i was looking for a quicker way out i guess..Any of you guys that could suggest something i can take that would improve my weight gains would be much appreciated lads..

    Once again thank you...
    Creatine monohydrate, It's cheap and effective. Put in in your protein drinks

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  • The Gully Gad
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    Lads first off upmost respect for dropping knowledge plus scaring *** outta me lol

    Im a bit crazy lads i just rushed into it head first just now im seeing results from my training so i upped it with the roids just enough to gain weight and then i was gonna come off it altogether just by not taking it..I know nothing about post cycle etc im ignorant to that i was just gonna stop once i saw results...

    Ive only been on them a week so from the info im getting here its no good...

    Viper thanks for the knowledge mate and Silva for taking the time..
    Viper im doing the protien shakes mate its helping i added a stone on its just i was looking for a quicker way out i guess..Any of you guys that could suggest something i can take that would improve my weight gains would be much appreciated lads..

    Once again thank you...

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  • TheNegation
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    Originally posted by gerardofpr View Post
    tks bro, you seem to know your stuff bout roids, ever use some?
    Not traditional AAS but I have used an OTC prohormone with decent results. But no "real" stuff.

    Originally posted by Ylem View Post
    agreed you seem like you know a decent amout the stuff thanks for the information do you know happen anything about EPO? i herd thats what ssm was alleged to have used? though i dont really know if thats correct even.

    also herd about a few people that got kicked out of the tour last year for using it. dont really know about this year though they probably set a good enough example last year that it tought them better. though i think with events like that where is one thing over multiple days its probably alot easier to pick people out.

    I know a lot of guys that use roids, but only one guy that I know that has ever used EPO. Basically what it's supposed to is make your body produce more RBC's. More Red Blood Cells means more oxygen in the blood and thus, better endurance and stamina which is why cyclists use it. There have been some reports of fighters using it but I can't confirm it.

    It involves injections every day for either 1 or 2 weeks (not sure which) and the effects can last for up to 6 months.

    However it's extremely dangerous. You're blood can easily become thick (and clot) and you could die. Usually people can prevent this by popping an aspirin to thin out the blood.

    Sleeping in a High Altitude Tent/Chamber has the same effect as EPO for boosting RBC's but the effects don't last as long

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  • Spartacus Sully
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    agreed you seem like you know a decent amout the stuff thanks for the information do you know happen anything about EPO? i herd thats what ssm was alleged to have used? though i dont really know if thats correct even.

    also herd about a few people that got kicked out of the tour last year for using it. dont really know about this year though they probably set a good enough example last year that it tought them better. though i think with events like that where is one thing over multiple days its probably alot easier to pick people out.
    Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 10-11-2009, 04:18 PM.

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  • Del Coqui
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    Originally posted by Wanderlei_Silva View Post
    Gyno
    Testicular Atrohpy
    HPTA Shutdown
    Acne
    Sleeplessness
    Lethargy
    Liver Stress
    High Blood Pressure
    High Cholesterol

    Most of these sides are common with almost all steroids and some are most are preventable.
    tks bro, you seem to know your stuff bout roids, ever use some?

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  • TheNegation
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    Gyno
    Testicular Atrohpy
    HPTA Shutdown
    Acne
    Sleeplessness
    Lethargy
    Liver Stress
    High Blood Pressure
    High Cholesterol

    Most of these sides are common with almost all steroids and some are most are preventable.

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  • Del Coqui
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    Originally posted by Wanderlei_Silva View Post
    Agreed. You should definitely have researched this and asked these kinds of questions before you started.

    If you do decide to finish off the cycle or even if you don't I'd go to the doctor and get blood work done to make sure everything is normal (Liver Values, Cholesterol Values, Hypertention, T/E Ratios etc)

    Oral are very popular especially among young people or people who are a afraid of needles, but Orals come with greater risks and sides. Injectable is always the way to go if you do use AAS.

    What you don't want to do is stack Orals together.



    Yeah I agree with this as well. You could have picked a safer steroid especially for your first time. But in reality, for only working out for one year, you definitely jumped the gun. There is no way you should have been even thinking about doing steroids. A Natty Test Booster as mentioned would have been better but even then. I didn't take Natty Test Booster until I had been lifting for over 2 years.
    can you briefly post some side effects?

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  • TheNegation
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    Originally posted by Trrmo View Post
    This is the stuff you needed to ask BEFORE you started the cycle, I have never taken steroids but I do know if you are gonna take them you need to do your research thoroughly and get some medical tests done first if not you can screw up with some bad side effects.. I am also pretty sure that oral steroids by themself are not recomended.
    In any case this is not the place to post the question. As Wanderlai said, stop taking them and do your research, especially about PCT.
    Agreed. You should definitely have researched this and asked these kinds of questions before you started.

    If you do decide to finish off the cycle or even if you don't I'd go to the doctor and get blood work done to make sure everything is normal (Liver Values, Cholesterol Values, Hypertention, T/E Ratios etc)

    Oral are very popular especially among young people or people who are a afraid of needles, but Orals come with greater risks and sides. Injectable is always the way to go if you do use AAS.

    What you don't want to do is stack Orals together.

    Originally posted by VipersThunder View Post
    No no no no no no no no no, That is probably the worst steroid you can take. It will blow you up like a water balloon and you will lose all the weight as soon as you stop taking it. If you have to use steroids just use straight testosterone but I would just think about supplements if I was you. I'm 6'0 ft 245 pounds ripped and I never used a steroid in my life bro. Are you using protein drinks and creatine yet? You need to. After that look into natural test boosters/anti estrogen combo's. They're safe and they work. Run it by me bro. I been using supplements about 20 years. I'm always here.
    Yeah I agree with this as well. You could have picked a safer steroid especially for your first time. But in reality, for only working out for one year, you definitely jumped the gun. There is no way you should have been even thinking about doing steroids. A Natty Test Booster as mentioned would have been better but even then. I didn't take Natty Test Booster until I had been lifting for over 2 years.

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  • Del Coqui
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    Originally posted by VipersThunder View Post
    No no no no no no no no no, That is probably the worst steroid you can take. It will blow you up like a water balloon and you will lose all the weight as soon as you stop taking it. If you have to use steroids just use straight testosterone but I would just think about supplements if I was you. I'm 6'0 ft 245 pounds ripped and I never used a steroid in my life bro. Are you using protein drinks and creatine yet? You need to. After that look into natural test boosters/anti estrogen combo's. They're safe and they work. Run it by me bro. I been using supplements about 20 years. I'm always here.
    So I heard.

    Good advise, I think TS is more interested in knowing side effects to get him off this ****.

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  • VipersThunder
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    Originally posted by The Gully Gad View Post
    Lads am i doing the right thing taking a course of these..
    I've already started but i want some peeps with inside knowledge on these roids and is it worth it...

    Been in serious training now for less then a year..
    Gained a stone in weight biceps,chest all coming on but these roids give massive weight gain in a 2 weeks cycle..

    My boy as gained 10 pounds in 2 weeks

    But i wanna know about the side effects before really getting heavy with them..
    No no no no no no no no no, That is probably the worst steroid you can take. It will blow you up like a water balloon and you will lose all the weight as soon as you stop taking it. If you have to use steroids just use straight testosterone but I would just think about supplements if I was you. I'm 6'0 ft 245 pounds ripped and I never used a steroid in my life bro. Are you using protein drinks and creatine yet? You need to. After that look into natural test boosters/anti estrogen combo's. They're safe and they work. Run it by me bro. I been using supplements about 20 years. I'm always here.

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