Hard sparring

[OctoberRed]

Sounds normal to me. But how hard are you guys going? Not worth getting some cracked ribs over. IMO.

Agreed. Someone once gave me an uppercut to the body that nearly made me double-over

[Rockin']

Agreed. Someone once gave me an uppercut to the body that nearly made me double-over

Sheet happens in this sport. Either you accept that fact or you find another sport............Rockin'

[Lomadeaux]

Agreed. Someone once gave me an uppercut to the body that nearly made me double-over

If you haven't come close to stopping anyone in the gym, you're probably not ready to fight.

[Cypocryphy]

Sheet happens in this sport. Either you accept that fact or you find another sport............Rockin'

Why? Why do that? I can see going hard once in a blue moon, but you can get the cardio and work in without beating each other up. Why risk going into a fight injured? You want to go in with a leg up (good training, sparring), not go in there handicapped, worried you're going to get hit in the body because you've got a cracked rib. Doesn't make any sense to me when it's not necessary. I guess it depends on what someone considers "hard." If I spar someone and they are swinging for the fences the whole time, trying to F me up, then I'm gong to get out of the ring. F**k that. Pros kick those guys out. They aren't going to pay for that ****. (Unless they are the ones kicking ass of course.) But Edwin Valero crap is BS IMO.

[dreamroom]

It depends on the fighter. If both are beginners, they probably shouldn't do any hard sparring. If they want to get a feel for it, I would put them with a fighter that's been around a while. That way the beginner will find out what kind of shape he is really in. He can tee off and throw hard, and the experienced fighter can "touch him" through the holes in his defense. I wouldn't go hard more than once a week. I'm a heavy weight, and people can get injured pretty easily at 200 lbs. and over. I found that working the heavy bag full power, (no throw away punches) for 3 minute rounds with 30 second rest periods, using 18 oz. gloves, really gets my conditioning at a high level. It's a killer though. I have an uppercut bag like 6 feet away from the heavy bag. When the 30 sec. caution light comes on toward the end of each round, I slide over for the last 30 seconds, and finish it with 4-6 punch uppercut flurries, up until the buzzer. After 6-8 rounds of that, I'm totally gassed, and my arms/shoulders are pumped to the max.

[Rockin']

Why? Why do that? I can see going hard once in a blue moon, but you can get the cardio and work in without beating each other up. Why risk going into a fight injured? You want to go in with a leg up (good training, sparring), not go in there handicapped, worried you're going to get hit in the body because you've got a cracked rib. Doesn't make any sense to me when it's not necessary. I guess it depends on what someone considers "hard." If I spar someone and they are swinging for the fences the whole time, trying to F me up, then I'm gong to get out of the ring. F**k that. Pros kick those guys out. They aren't going to pay for that ****. (Unless they are the ones kicking ass of course.) But Edwin Valero crap is BS IMO.

Are you running a boxing gym or something?

Pros should be helping the guy who just loves to fight.

At the bell I'm coming after you, and then before you.

Why go in to a fight not knowing how to just let it flow. Learn from the adrenalin dumps in to your blood stream, learn to thrive upon it in those situations, If they show up again for the next training session than you work with 'em, and you train them properly......Rockin'

[Rockin']

It depends on the fighter. If both are beginners, they probably shouldn't do any hard sparring. If they want to get a feel for it, I would put them with a fighter that's been around a while. That way the beginner will find out what kind of shape he is really in. He can tee off and throw hard, and the experienced fighter can "touch him" through the holes in his defense. I wouldn't go hard more than once a week. I'm a heavy weight, and people can get injured pretty easily at 200 lbs. and over. I found that working the heavy bag full power, (no throw away punches) for 3 minute rounds with 30 second rest periods, using 18 oz. gloves, really gets my conditioning at a high level. It's a killer though. I have an uppercut bag like 6 feet away from the heavy bag. When the 30 sec. caution light comes on toward the end of each round, I slide over for the last 30 seconds, and finish it with 4-6 punch uppercut flurries, up until the buzzer. After 6-8 rounds of that, I'm totally gassed, and my arms/shoulders are pumped to the max.

I let them throw as they want to on the first day, 2 absolute beginners. You can see a lot in their uncoordinated flows. See what you are working with. And then teach each as you see fit.............Rockin'

[Rockin']

[SIZE=16px][FONT=Georgia]Why? Why do that? I can see going hard once in a blue moon, but you can get the cardio and work in without beating each other up. Why risk going into a fight injured?

You do understand what you are bringing up with your knowledge of the art? I can't remember ever not going a bit on the throttle sparring, except for against the lesser experienced (you don't hurt them but you just smack them around and sheet).

Are you trying to build a dancing factory or a boxing club? .

Let them throw as they choose in sparring.
The ones who keep showing up are the ones that you want..........Rockin'

[Rockin']

I found that working the heavy bag full power, (no throw away punches) for 3 minute rounds with 30 second rest periods, using 18 oz. gloves, really gets my conditioning at a high level. It's a killer though. I have an uppercut bag like 6 feet away from the heavy bag. When the 30 sec. caution light comes on toward the end of each round, I slide over for the last 30 seconds, and finish it with 4-6 punch uppercut flurries, up until the buzzer. After 6-8 rounds of that, I'm totally gassed, and my arms/shoulders are pumped to the max.

Just imagine somebody is beating the sheet out of you all while all of that was goin' on. It is truely a brutal professional sport. Bloods all just dripping in your eye and you are warring against another man, with your fists, before a crowd of people in a ciivillized society. It can be some trippy sheet..........Rockin'

[Cypocryphy]

Are you running a boxing gym or something?

Pros should be helping the guy who just loves to fight.

At the bell I'm coming after you, and then before you.

Why go in to a fight not knowing how to just let it flow. Learn from the adrenalin dumps in to your blood stream, learn to thrive upon it in those situations, If they show up again for the next training session than you work with 'em, and you train them properly......Rockin'

I'm saying spar hard every now and then. Spar hard with someone not completely beyond you, before you fight or to really try to implement something you are working on. Sure. But doing that multiple times a week? No man. But each to his own. You want to go 100 every time you get into a ring, then that's on you. But when your career is stopped short, real short, and you end up with cognitive difficulties later on, you'll be looking back at those hard sparring sessions with regret.