any1 used those fake winning bag gloves

[Marvin6591]

nope, perfectly weighted. you would be suprised by how little they weigh. The thumb is set perfectly. The layers of foam are the best. The wrist/palm padding is perfectly proportioned. Very Ergonomic, your fingertips dont get compressed and the glove just feels like part of your hand when you have it on. The wrist support is perfect. Even down to the coloring and emblems. The coloring doesnt fade or come off and neither do the emblems. They basically make perfect gloves, you cant find anything wrong with them.

The foam almost feels like tempurpedic material. But more appropriate for boxing (not as easily compressed)


Here is a full photo album of a guy who spent alot of money at winning lol. Detailed pics of some of the stuff i stated above can be found in this link.

http://s458.***********.com/albums/q...albumview=grid



Also here is how winning gloves are made. Just some pics you wont be able to read anyting unless you are japanese.

http://www.d7.dion.ne.jp/~winning/Pr...ramepage2.html


Greek K always appreciated.

damn that guy went all out lol im going to have to get some of those knuckle guards for sure

[I3C727]

I don't touch any Everlast gloves these days (though I still use their mexican style hand wraps).

I used to have a pair of the old pro trainers in 18oz - the 89.99 ones from like 2003, not the "high performance" trainers that are now called "pro style gloves".

They had a nice, broken-in feel with soft leather, and one of the most comfortable hand pockets I ever used. My problem with them was the fill.
Everytime I hit the bag, it would make a sound like a beach ball deflating.
After like 6 uses, the imitation horsehair fill started coming through the liner.
I gave them to a teammate of mine who absolutely loved them & used them for years afterwards.

My bro-in-law is not a competitive boxer, at least not yet.
He has problems with his neck and can't even spar.
Mostly does it for fitness, but at a real boxing gym.
Not even 100% sure he's got his own gloves, I think he uses the gym's gloves; but I know for sure that he doesn't own a pair of Winnings.

Still say if you want mexican gloves, you should go Grant, Reyes, Flores, Casanova, Morales, or Classics. Heck, even Fairtex's Mexican style glove's pretty good.

Yea winning gloves i think are actually more money in japan. If you take the prices off the japan site and do yen to dollar conversion it comes out to like 20 dollars more. So they are still expensive over there as they are here in the states.

[Marvin6591]

Im glad to see Porkchop finally coming to terms with Winning lol

[Pork Chop]

yea if you could translate those steps that would be great.

not a professional translation, but here goes....

*on the top left*
"In this section we will give a simple explanation of the Winning manufacturing process.

Ingredients for the Red MS200:
Red leather
sponge (such as shock absorbent material)
navy blue nylon twill *woven material*
white laces
oval "Winning" logo
square "Winning" logo
grip hose
white "bias tape" *one of those weird Japanglish words that probably doesn't mean what it looks like in English, probably means "vinyl trim"*
8oz weight sticker
Japan Boxing Commission Official mark"

*on the right*
"The materials at a glance include cut/shaped sponge, leather, nylon twill *woven fabric*, rope, and the logo.

1. The cut
They cut the shape of the glove from the leather.
They shape the sponge and the nylon twill in the same pattern.

2. preparations
Using the glue, stretch the nylon twill over the inside of the glove. Leather naturally stretches out, so strengthening it is very important.

3. The shell *tricky word, even my wife don't know it*
Using a sewing machine, we fasten the part we just prepared.
The inside of the glove is called "the uke" *i think it means "front", it's the person who gets thrown in Judo*,
the outside of the glove "the senaka" *means "back"*,
the wrist support is called "the makura" *means "pillow"*.
You sew it up like a bag, but don't sew it closed

4. measurement
In relation to the glove size, the weight is the deciding factor.
Measure the weight of the shell, the "sponge" that will go inside, and the string/laces all together.

Haven't you decided on the boxing glove weight?
Take a quick peak at the Boxing Q&A corner!

5. Packing
Stuff the sponge into the shell.
It's a job that requires a lot of strength.

6. Final touches
Using "bias tape", fasten together the "uke", the "senaka", and the "makura".
Finally, thread the laces, check for flaws, check the sewing, and you're finished."


Marvin6591
I'm sure they're good gloves. I've always thought so. I just don't have the money to spend on them. I literally just had my first kid 5 days ago and am buying a house. Even though all my favorite gloves were recently ruined, I can't afford to replace them with even 1 pair of Winnings, not even if I was sure that they're the best things since sliced bread. Heck, I can't even afford to reorder the 2 pairs of Grants I lost (around the same price as 1 pair of Winning). The Shevlin custom glove route was actually much cheaper & tailor made for my hands, exactly the way I order them. If I wear out these gloves or somehow find a big stash of cash, I'll think about giving Winning a shot.

[JabSandwich]

not a professional translation, but here goes....

*on the top left*
"In this section we will give a simple explanation of the Winning manufacturing process.

Ingredients for the Red MS200:
Red leather
sponge (such as shock absorbent material)
navy blue nylon twill *woven material*
white laces
oval "Winning" logo
square "Winning" logo
grip hose
white "bias tape" *one of those weird Japanglish words that probably doesn't mean what it looks like in English, probably means "vinyl trim"*
8oz weight sticker
Japan Boxing Commission Official mark"

*on the right*
"The materials at a glance include cut/shaped sponge, leather, nylon twill *woven fabric*, rope, and the logo.

1. The cut
They cut the shape of the glove from the leather.
They shape the sponge and the nylon twill in the same pattern.

2. preparations
Using the glue, stretch the nylon twill over the inside of the glove. Leather naturally stretches out, so strengthening it is very important.

3. The shell *tricky word, even my wife don't know it*
Using a sewing machine, we fasten the part we just prepared.
The inside of the glove is called "the uke" *i think it means "front", it's the person who gets thrown in Judo*,
the outside of the glove "the senaka" *means "back"*,
the wrist support is called "the makura" *means "pillow"*.
You sew it up like a bag, but don't sew it closed

4. measurement
In relation to the glove size, the weight is the deciding factor.
Measure the weight of the shell, the "sponge" that will go inside, and the string/laces all together.

Haven't you decided on the boxing glove weight?
Take a quick peak at the Boxing Q&A corner!

5. Packing
Stuff the sponge into the shell.
It's a job that requires a lot of strength.

6. Final touches
Using "bias tape", fasten together the "uke", the "senaka", and the "makura".
Finally, thread the laces, check for flaws, check the sewing, and you're finished."


Marvin6591
I'm sure they're good gloves. I've always thought so. I just don't have the money to spend on them. I literally just had my first kid 5 days ago and am buying a house. Even though all my favorite gloves were recently ruined, I can't afford to replace them with even 1 pair of Winnings, not even if I was sure that they're the best things since sliced bread. Heck, I can't even afford to reorder the 2 pairs of Grants I lost (around the same price as 1 pair of Winning). The Shevlin custom glove route was actually much cheaper & tailor made for my hands, exactly the way I order them. If I wear out these gloves or somehow find a big stash of cash, I'll think about giving Winning a shot.

thanks man, congratulations on the kid

[KennyWeldon]

i have both winning and fighting gloves...they are both the exact same thing, fighting is just the american version of winning. If you say anything different you are just an ignorant f-k who has never owned good quality gloves. Now all I will buy is fighting, the same protection, glove weight, and nice looking glove for like 1/2 the price.

[Marvin6591]

not a professional translation, but here goes....

*on the top left*
"In this section we will give a simple explanation of the Winning manufacturing process.

Ingredients for the Red MS200:
Red leather
sponge (such as shock absorbent material)
navy blue nylon twill *woven material*
white laces
oval "Winning" logo
square "Winning" logo
grip hose
white "bias tape" *one of those weird Japanglish words that probably doesn't mean what it looks like in English, probably means "vinyl trim"*
8oz weight sticker
Japan Boxing Commission Official mark"

*on the right*
"The materials at a glance include cut/shaped sponge, leather, nylon twill *woven fabric*, rope, and the logo.

1. The cut
They cut the shape of the glove from the leather.
They shape the sponge and the nylon twill in the same pattern.

2. preparations
Using the glue, stretch the nylon twill over the inside of the glove. Leather naturally stretches out, so strengthening it is very important.

3. The shell *tricky word, even my wife don't know it*
Using a sewing machine, we fasten the part we just prepared.
The inside of the glove is called "the uke" *i think it means "front", it's the person who gets thrown in Judo*,
the outside of the glove "the senaka" *means "back"*,
the wrist support is called "the makura" *means "pillow"*.
You sew it up like a bag, but don't sew it closed

4. measurement
In relation to the glove size, the weight is the deciding factor.
Measure the weight of the shell, the "sponge" that will go inside, and the string/laces all together.

Haven't you decided on the boxing glove weight?
Take a quick peak at the Boxing Q&A corner!

5. Packing
Stuff the sponge into the shell.
It's a job that requires a lot of strength.

6. Final touches
Using "bias tape", fasten together the "uke", the "senaka", and the "makura".
Finally, thread the laces, check for flaws, check the sewing, and you're finished."


Marvin6591
I'm sure they're good gloves. I've always thought so. I just don't have the money to spend on them. I literally just had my first kid 5 days ago and am buying a house. Even though all my favorite gloves were recently ruined, I can't afford to replace them with even 1 pair of Winnings, not even if I was sure that they're the best things since sliced bread. Heck, I can't even afford to reorder the 2 pairs of Grants I lost (around the same price as 1 pair of Winning). The Shevlin custom glove route was actually much cheaper & tailor made for my hands, exactly the way I order them. If I wear out these gloves or somehow find a big stash of cash, I'll think about giving Winning a shot.

Good post man and cong**** on the kid.... yeah i get what your saying the prices are ridiculous im a college student and i work almost fulltime just so i can afford these bad boys

[Pork Chop]

Thanks guys
My kid's already thrown his first punch! hehe


I3C727
It's all about the exchange rate.
Right now it's only 96 yen to the dollar.
A reasonable exchange rate is 110 to 120 yen to the dollar.
When I lived there in high school it was over 150.
On top of that, if you're over there and have to convert dollars to yen, you're never going to get the advertised exchange rate.

But every time I go back over there, I assume I'm going to be spending tons of money (because of food, lodging, transportation, gifts, etc).
So the next time I go over there, it would at least fit into my budget a little better to shop for gloves.

I want to actually try a few pairs on before I buy though - different colors & velcro vs lace up.
So I'm going to have to find a good sporting goods store when I go, most of the places I know off hand are more like Walmart.

[I3C727]

i have both winning and fighting gloves...they are both the exact same thing, fighting is just the american version of winning. If you say anything different you are just an ignorant f-k who has never owned good quality gloves. Now all I will buy is fighting, the same protection, glove weight, and nice looking glove for like 1/2 the price.

why dont you post a review. Everyone who has gotten them says they dont compare and i beleive it.

[Marvin6591]

why dont you post a review. Everyone who has gotten them says they dont compare and i beleive it.

agreed and for some reason i dont think he will lol