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Originally posted by danj.lizotte View PostFlicker has definitely done neither. Everytime i look into this forum and see his posts i hope no one actually listens to this *******. He just spouts some armchair boxing bull**** that dosent even make sense half the time. Anyone who has really boxed can tell this guy dosent know jack ****.
First of all, I really dont know what your talking about. Show me one post that didn't make sense. Go, show me. What? Being a switch hitter? Using MARTIAL ART punching variations. What doesn't make sense? You show me that, or else your just lost all credibility and might as well quit posting.
MMA is more difficult than boxing.
Boxing:- Straight right
- straight left
- right hook
- left hook
- right uppercut
- left uppercut
- sway left
- sway right
- duck
- fade away
Then you have the option of body or head. And that is boxing in a nutshell. Its easier said than done of course. But thats what it literally is.
MMA:- straight right
- straight left
- right hook
- left hook
- right uppercut
- left uppercut
- right knee
- left knee
- right elbow
- left elbow
- right kick
- left kick
- foot stomp
- shoulder thrust
- single leg takedown
- double leg takedown
- high crotch takedown
- side mount
- full mount
- half guard
- full guard
- butterfly guard
- north and south mount
Then you have the option of body, legs, or head. Then you have well over 1000 different types of submissions. Not even mentioning the VAST seperation in range of combat. Because of all this, you have to NOT ONLY work your upper body(boxing) but you have to work your legs EQUALLY. Unlike boxing where the legs aren't that big of a deal. Then you have to work your muscles to endure wrestling. Then you also have to work your muscles for submissions. Just like boxing, its easier said than done.
So tell me now. Which one has a higher difficulty?
MMA you have to train everything, even your fingers. Boxing is just upper body. I respect both but im not ****** enough to say Punching is more difficult than Punching, Kicking, Wrestling, and Submitting combined.
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Originally posted by F l i c k e r View PostOkay Noob. Great way at trying to get reputation.
First of all, I really dont know what your talking about. Show me one post that didn't make sense. Go, show me. What? Being a switch hitter? Using MARTIAL ART punching variations. What doesn't make sense? You show me that, or else your just lost all credibility and might as well quit posting.
MMA is more difficult than boxing.
Boxing:- Straight right
- straight left
- right hook
- left hook
- right uppercut
- left uppercut
- sway left
- sway right
- duck
- fade away
Then you have the option of body or head. And that is boxing in a nutshell. Its easier said than done of course. But thats what it literally is.
MMA:- straight right
- straight left
- right hook
- left hook
- right uppercut
- left uppercut
- right knee
- left knee
- right elbow
- left elbow
- right kick
- left kick
- foot stomp
- shoulder thrust
- single leg takedown
- double leg takedown
- high crotch takedown
- side mount
- full mount
- half guard
- full guard
- butterfly guard
- north and south mount
Then you have the option of body, legs, or head. Then you have well over 1000 different types of submissions. Not even mentioning the VAST seperation in range of combat. Because of all this, you have to NOT ONLY work your upper body(boxing) but you have to work your legs EQUALLY. Unlike boxing where the legs aren't that big of a deal. Then you have to work your muscles to endure wrestling. Then you also have to work your muscles for submissions. Just like boxing, its easier said than done.
So tell me now. Which one has a higher difficulty?
MMA you have to train everything, even your fingers. Boxing is just upper body. I respect both but im not ****** enough to say Punching is more difficult than Punching, Kicking, Wrestling, and Submitting combined.
I think that one sentence says it all....you dont know jack S*** about boxing
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Unlike boxing where the legs aren't that big of a deal. Wow this guy has lost his sense lol. Legs play a strong role in all fighting styles especially boxing.
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Wow what a weird thread.
If you want to look ripped - change your diet and do an azzload of cardio
If you want to gain muscle lift weights
If you want to get good at punching people do boxing
If you want to get good at kicking people do muay thai
If you want to get good at ground fighting do bjj
If you want to get well rounded at all ranges do mma
More than BJJ, muay thai, or boxing - wrestling rules mma, because wrestlers have the ability to determine whether the fight goes to the ground or stays standing. All good mma guys train wrestling (or at least takedowns), but they also train boxing (and muay thai and bjj). I don't think you can conclusively say who's more conditioned - the wrestler or the boxer, they're different types of exercise. Mma folks have to do both, splitting their time between multiple disciplines, which is why they sometimes look unpolished (jack of all trades syndrome).
Speaking as a muay thai guy - boxers stay busier than us, higher output, with more active footwork; but you guys get those nice, cushy foul protectors (we get steel cups) and you don't have to worry about a solid round kick to the inside of the thigh, shin on shin clashes, or a knee cracking your rib cage (hard to take body punches seriously if that ever happens to you).
Most good muay thai people I know have in the past, or currently train boxing separately in addition the muay thai.
Same goes for all the good mma folks I've met.
Different strokes for different folks.
This rivalry stuff is silly.
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Originally posted by bearman3000 View PostUnlike boxing where the legs aren't that big of a deal.
Wow this guy has lost his sense lol. Legs play a strong role in all fighting styles especially boxing.
Originally posted by Marvin6591 View PostI think that one sentence says it all....you dont know jack S*** about boxing
I can show you guys the vast difference in boxing and mma if you want. Then right after we can go a couple of rounds boxing as well. Since apparently you both believe punching is harder to do than punching, kicking, wrestling, and submitting combined.
Right here in california. Adrenaline gym in san bernardino, just in case.
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Originally posted by F l i c k e r View PostOkay, let me rephrase sense you appear to be a little slow. Boxing doesn't use the legs as much as MMA does. Happy? Does that tickle your tummy?
It's the truth. You dont want to admit it because your a boxing fanatic who likes to talk about boxing but doesn't do **** in the ring.
I can show you guys the vast difference in boxing and mma if you want. Then right after we can go a couple of rounds boxing as well. Since apparently you both believe punching is harder to do than punching, kicking, wrestling, and submitting combined.
Right here in california. Adrenaline gym in san bernardino, just in case.
I don't know you but have to agree with people that you know **** all about boxing (you missed out slipping and parrying, as well as shoulder rolls and other blocks, but you don;t expect a meth taking MMA bum to know about defence!) and probably are no good at it yourself. That's why you believe in MMA, it is for ******* who can't punch or fight and believe elaborate techniques and training at a snails pace will help them. Ramapge and his belly are a disgrace to professional sports. What about when Discovery channel compared him to a journeyman and the result was that he punches like a girl in comparison! Imagine what Hayemaker would do to him.
If MMA was better, the public are not dumb: it would be more popular wordlwide. The truth is that boxing is more popular, even in the far east! Like Floyd Jr said, MMa is for the bums who were not good enough for the bigtime of boxing!
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hmmm..... in the end it is still a thread of Boxing vs MMA. Top Boxers win a boxing match. Top MMAers win a FIGHT (90% of the time). Boxers BOX. MMAers FIGHT. Oh ya, fights must still have rules like no biting and hitting the groin for the sake of a sport.
As for the training. MMA has MUCH MORE elements to cover in their training. But BOTH boxing and MMA training will keep you in shape.... it really depends on how hard YOU train.
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