Cuban style of training...

[Trrmo]

Yeah, I saw that documentary too. On PBS as I recall. Castro likes to say that professional boxing is exploitation. Well, let me tell you that the Cuba boxing system is some of the worst child exploitation I have ever seen. It wouldn't be allowed in this country!

I donīt know if I would call it exploitation as the kids can choose to box or not. Some of the methods seem pretty harsh and outdated. Very authoritarian, and alot of pro government propaganda as well. The best amateurs here in Ecuador train and live under a system with alot borrowed from the Cuban system. You have to line up in height order and then listen to long motivation speeches at the beginnning and end of training etc. But isnīt that just like training in armed forces anywhere?

But alot of things are behind the times in these less developed countries, although hard to criticise the Cuban education and medical system.

I have seen a documentary on young gymnasts in Australia and it didnīt seem much worse though.

[potatoes]

I donīt know if I would call it exploitation as the kids can choose to box or not. Some of the methods seem pretty harsh and outdated. Very authoritarian, and alot of pro government propaganda as well. The best amateurs here in Ecuador train and live under a system with alot borrowed from the Cuban system. You have to line up in height order and then listen to long motivation speeches at the beginnning and end of training etc. But isnīt that just like training in armed forces anywhere?

But alot of things are behind the times in these less developed countries, although hard to criticise the Cuban education and medical system.

I have seen a documentary on young gymnasts in Australia and it didnīt seem much worse though.

12 year old kids can't be expected to make wise decisions, they wouldn't know what questions to ask. How many kids in Cuba knew that they would be starved to make weight? How many of them were told that some idiot would make an arbitrary decision as to what weight they would fight at? When you put kids through a pressurized system, you can't be sure what it is going to do to their psyche. Felix Savon was a great boxer. I wonder what kind of a man he is.

[BrooklynBomber]

Pretty interesting, although I have to note that chinese training regime is probably the harshest that I have heard about.

I trained under soviet style, which is quite close to cuban and that was something I could do, if I am motivated enough. Chinese trainig regime I would not even come close to that.

[BrooklynBomber]

Also want to add that shadowboxing is indeed one of the most important aspects of the game, it is where your motoric skills are learned and pretty much the base of your boxing skill, if you dont do it right here, you ain't gonna do it right anywhere else.

[Trrmo]

12 year old kids can't be expected to make wise decisions, they wouldn't know what questions to ask. How many kids in Cuba knew that they would be starved to make weight? How many of them were told that some idiot would make an arbitrary decision as to what weight they would fight at? When you put kids through a pressurized system, you can't be sure what it is going to do to their psyche. Felix Savon was a great boxer. I wonder what kind of a man he is.

Yeah but thats what I saw in the gymnast documentary, little girls crying from the strict training, weight restrictions etc.

[Trrmo]

Dchampishere would be the person to ask about this though seeing he went through the whole Cuban training system.

[dchampishere]

12 year old kids can't be expected to make wise decisions, they wouldn't know what questions to ask. How many kids in Cuba knew that they would be starved to make weight? How many of them were told that some idiot would make an arbitrary decision as to what weight they would fight at? When you put kids through a pressurized system, you can't be sure what it is going to do to their psyche. Felix Savon was a great boxer. I wonder what kind of a man he is.

it was an hounor to be a boxer in my country, no one forced anyone to box. and you say we starved to make weight no we didnt. you do not know what we did throug some program on pbs. being a cuban am boxer is the greatest thing i have ever done and i am hounored to say i was in that system. the brotherhood, the pride, the sorrow, the pain and the sacrifice i made there has made me the person that i am. i see some of these rich kids other places with no drive or self respect and they have the world at thier feet and do nothing because they never had to truly find themselves through adversity

[BrooklynBomber]

it was an hounor to be a boxer in my country, no one forced anyone to box. and you say we starved to make weight no we didnt. you do not know what we did throug some program on pbs. being a cuban am boxer is the greatest thing i have ever done and i am hounored to say i was in that system. the brotherhood, the pride, the sorrow, the pain and the sacrifice i made there has made me the person that i am. i see some of these rich kids other places with no drive or self respect and they have the world at thier feet and do nothing because they never had to truly find themselves through adversity

What do you do now?
Do you fight or train?

[big paulie]

it was an hounor to be a boxer in my country, no one forced anyone to box. and you say we starved to make weight no we didnt. you do not know what we did throug some program on pbs. being a cuban am boxer is the greatest thing i have ever done and i am hounored to say i was in that system. the brotherhood, the pride, the sorrow, the pain and the sacrifice i made there has made me the person that i am. i see some of these rich kids other places with no drive or self respect and they have the world at thier feet and do nothing because they never had to truly find themselves through adversity

Post of the year nominee! Green k

[Trrmo]

Pretty interesting, although I have to note that chinese training regime is probably the harshest that I have heard about.

I trained under soviet style, which is quite close to cuban and that was something I could do, if I am motivated enough. Chinese trainig regime I would not even come close to that.

What was the soviet style of training like?