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  • #21
    Originally posted by nirojsri View Post
    I do have fighting experience I've sparred over a 80 times with amateur boxers and I've had an exhibition fight with a much heavier and experienced fighter. But I never think I'm better than everybody else in fact I know that I am the least skilled amateur in my gym right now.
    80 times is not alot, you are still new yourself although you are alot better than these guys. New guys are very unpredictable and have a broken rhythm which makes them difficult, you'll be learning something even if you don't know it.

    You have also said you are the least experienced fighter, that doesn't mean your not good enough to fight better fighters but it means your the best for a new guy, give it time and he'll put you in with better fighters

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    • #22
      I've heard this complaint before, it sounds like complete bull**** to me. You're upset because these "newbs" kick your ass for a round and then get tired and quit before you get revenge. If you were to meet in the street, they'd probably win the fight since real fights don't last very long. Stop complaining and learn how to fight already. A newb is a newb is a newb, if you can't kick their ass every second of every round then you're the newb.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by nirojsri View Post
        My trainer has this habit of me always sparring with first timers.
        I'm not that experienced myself. I've only been training for about 7 months.
        I'm absolutely sick of them running at me and throwing wild swings and trying to knock me out. One time he put me with a guy that weighed like 80 lbs more than me and he was a newbie He practically charged me into a corner for 1 round and threw the same combination uppercuts while pinning me into a corner.
        Literally pinning me he had his whole body against mine as if he was tackling me and held me in place in the corner. ****ing hurt. Then he gets tired as a mother****er we start 2nd round he quits and never shows up again.

        I know people deserve a chance even if they are new. But I'm really sick of it.
        Is this selfish? and if not how can I tell my trainer I don't like sparring with new or first timers without coming off as arrogant or thinking I'm better than everyone.
        Seven months is a very short period of time. Don't worry you are still learning and sparring with these new guys will actually help you a lot if you go in with the right attitude. If you can slip, block and counter everything from a guy that outweighs you by a lot or just keep him at the end of a jab while he throws wild haymakers then your coach will put you up with the more experienced guys.

        Until you show the improvement that it is not doing anything for you to be in with these guys then he won't do it. That's how my trainers used to do it at our gym anyway when I started out and that's what I did with new people as well. Show your willingness to learn and use everything that you have learned in the gym against these guys. If you are showing that you can keep a bigger, but less experienced guy at the end of you jab and can get out of the way of everything and basically keep him confused and turning in circles then it shows you've learned something and he will move you up.

        It's all up to you, but seven months is a very short period. Keep at it.

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        • #24
          i had this same probblem,
          but its jus cuz you havent been training long,
          slowley but surley u'll be sparrin' betta guys,

          i remmember my first time sparrin', my trainer was talkin to someone,
          and the first round, BOOM, da bastard i was sparrin broke my nose.

          but i didnt go knowware, i keeped comin at him,
          my nose stopped hurtin when it got numb,
          so i keeped goin' after em.

          dont be so hard on newbie's,
          and you've only been trainin' for 7 months, so
          eventually u'll spar betta guys.

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          • #25
            the more I think about this thread the dumber it seems. Your job is to hurt the other guy in the ring, asking "is this selfish?" is just ****ing ******ed.

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            • #26
              it can be beneficial, but sparring experienced guys is better

              it can help you because they are so wild and rough, sometimes you fight guys like that, and it helps them too, for instance a few months ago my coach put me in to spar a guys who had shown some good ability, natural speed and rhythm etc but still very raw and green, he was about 10-15 lbs heavier than me and a good deal taller

              so anyway, i belted the **** out of him, made his nose bleed etc, but he kept sparring with me and now 2-3 months later he can compete and even win rounds off me and other guys in sparring, and he is having his first fight soon, great natural talent, he is pakistani and reminds me of amir khan, really ****ing fast hands and reflexes

              so yeah what im trying to say is sparrign with these guys aint always a waste of time, if they have ability the sparring with better guys can help them progress rapidly

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              • #27
                really i mean new guys can be awkward especially if you're used to neat and tidy style fighters but it should really be mostly a cakewalk for anyone with a few fights, even if the new guy is bigger

                they do **** like drop their hands when they try to trade with you, they are off balance, no defence, too ****ing easy

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                • #28
                  Whenever coach would put the same guy in against new guys it was for one of three reasons:

                  1. There was no one else to spar
                  2. The *gatekeeper* didn't show ambition to anyone but himself
                  3. There was a lot of trust and respect from coach

                  Reading your posts it sounds like you fall into category number 2. To get out of that role you need to do two things. First is talk to coach and tell him what's up. Coach's are smart but they're not mind readers and won't know a thing if you don't say anything. And second; whip someone's ass. I don't mean wack a newbie in the solar plexus or pop them in the nose. I mean get in with an experienced guy show-n-prove that you belong by taking charge for a round or two and seriously SHOW coach that you mean business and want to get better.

                  Failure to do the above and you will continue as the gatekeeper in your gym as long as you go there.

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                  • #29
                    lol you just need to whoop ass.

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