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  • #21
    Equalibrium- Russian Twists www.rosstraining.com/articles/hardcore.html
    You can do them on the floor or on a medicine ball too, I prefer the incline version since its more strict. Their at 2:24. I tried youtube but everybody had horrible form. I use almost the same weight (40lbs) and usually do 8 reps a side (from middle to left, from left to right, right to middle=1 rep each side)

    Chinnies- www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtrZUic0AWE

    He does chinnies after the pushups. These will burn. If you want a really bad burn bring your elbows to the outside of your knees instead of the inside like he does.

    Julio- I see. Do you ever do anything on an incline board? I bought one about a year ago and my core strength went through the roof and Id only use it 2 or 3 times a week. Theres not alot of exercises that I know you can do on 1 but damn it helps. Russian twists get a gold star for sure, improved my hooks power and speed alot and thickened my obliques real good. I have a bit more mass on my left (always been like that) and I can really take a shot to my left side well, my right side not quite as well though but stil better than the guys at my gym. Lol the guys at the gym call me "Abs" cuz of how hard I work my abs and how resiliant I am to body shots.

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    • #22
      Nah man

      Its hard to over train your abdominal muscels because ur using them to support your body every time u stand up. peace

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Landon S View Post
        Julio- I see. Do you ever do anything on an incline board? I bought one about a year ago and my core strength went through the roof and Id only use it 2 or 3 times a week. Theres not alot of exercises that I know you can do on 1 but damn it helps. Russian twists get a gold star for sure, improved my hooks power and speed alot and thickened my obliques real good. I have a bit more mass on my left (always been like that) and I can really take a shot to my left side well, my right side not quite as well though but stil better than the guys at my gym. Lol the guys at the gym call me "Abs" cuz of how hard I work my abs and how resiliant I am to body shots.
        You sound a bit like me and you do right to work on abs alot. I found that workins the sides helps with your body shot resilience and delivery of hooks. It helps your general posture and mobility too! I have to say I am not really a big fan of the incline board and think it is a bit of a gimmick. I have one in my home gym and have NEVER used it. They give me back pains or a sore back but there are many pro's in the gym who find it helps. Especially part time fighters that want to do alot of work concentrated into a short period of time! I would say my dislike for it is not theoretical but a personal thing.
        Originally posted by salem-no1 View Post
        Its hard to over train your abdominal muscels because ur using them to support your body every time u stand up. peace
        Good point! I forgot to mention that my sport physio also told me to pull them in and do exercises while you are breathing normally. This works the deeper muscles andnot the six pack ones. Since I have done them my posture has improved and I no longer get back pains even when sitting for a long time. Google search back physiotherapy and you might find them there!

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        • #24
          Julio- No, its not a gimmick like alot of things are. Like I said it helped me immensely. Think about it...just as an example say you were doing crunches. The hardest time to do a crunch is when you are level since theres the most gravity acting against you. A regular crunch your only level at the start, but with an incline you can change the point that the hardest portion of a crunch or sit-up occurs. Thus training your abs at a different angle making them stronger at another point. Thats sort of one way to put it but in lamens terms it makes **** a whole lot harder since your not used to it. Either way, a harder variation like v-ups or lying leg twists really helps without a board...so in a way an incline board IS a gimmick but its a damn good one in my opinion.

          Either way, Im not saying "do it my way" but no matter what vary exercises to keep a positive effect happening. Really....that is all that matters.
          Last edited by Landon S; 12-07-2008, 07:11 AM.

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          • #25
            i woul not work out any muscle/muscles every single day. that is completely counterproductive. the abs can be worked with varying intensity every other day according to what i know.

            good thing is, you can always work out other things besides muscles such as ligaments and tendons,etc.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JulioCesaChavez View Post
              I've noticed alot of people talk about overtraining when they are not even training that hard! it is very hard to overtrain, so don't use this as an excuse in your head to work less. You can and should do ab exercises everyday and you won't be overtraining fuck all! Just make sure you take your time to build it up slowly but surely to about 1200 reps. I do 400 raises, 400 sit ups and 400 frog crunches (these work EVERY single muscle) in sets of 100 or 200. Most people go on about overtraining like its going out of fashion, when in reality they are out of shape. Work hard, reap the rewards!
              its is very hard to overtrain... bull****. im sorry but u dont wanna push the kid to strain a muscle. I think even the less knowledgable when it comes to trainin would be able to work that out. people pull muscles or even snap tendons/ligaments in some cases of overtrainin ur body when ur muscles are not developed properly to cope with the kind of intensity ur telling him to do!

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              Right what i would say is basically rest when u feel u need to rest dont fight against pain cos u dont kno if thatll lead to a nasty injury. drink plenty of water to replenish muscles as ur muscles are somethin like 70% water (dont know the figures to dont get quotin me) i think a day cardio & abdominal workout - rest the next day to do some weights, then rest the next day to do cardio & abdominal workout etc etc now im no expert but that sounds sufficient... ur givin different areas of ur body a days rest (plus drinkin water to replenish muscles) but ur still doin something on that rest day.

              hope ive helped somewhat. never overtrain cos u will ****in hurt urself simple as.

              again, i hope ive helped.

              cya later dude
              Last edited by kenny91; 12-09-2008, 05:23 AM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by salem-no1 View Post
                Its hard to over train your abdominal muscels because ur using them to support your body every time u stand up. peace
                Great logic! I guess you can train your legs every day too (I know I support my body with those every time I stand up), and I use my arms constantly, too(even while typing this!).

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by JulioCesaChavez View Post
                  You are a funny looking guy, and my answer is you are most welcome to TRY!

                  Boxing Club Michelis
                  Avenue de Tarascon
                  Marseille 13011
                  France

                  OR

                  St Louis B.C.
                  8 Boulevard Denis Papin
                  13015 Marseille
                  France

                  After you get beaten up, at least you can enjoy the sun and fit birds (you may have to pay fatso).

                  He may suck big penises like the deformed Arturo Gatti, but this time the man is telling the truth! As I said before, you need to build it up slowly until you are doing prime RJJ routines like me. When I was a teenager I was slack and basically started my circuit work from scratch as I was absolutely **** at them even though I had blinding speed and power in sparring. It took me a year to go from 10 squats 10 press ups and 10 sit ups, to 1000 knuckle push ups per day, 1200 reps on the abs and around 300 various squat/thrust/burpee exercises. Through hard work, PATIENCE and determination, anyone can get there eventually! The 1000 press ups are excellent fro your punch output/workrate.

                  Landon S, I did not have time to elaborate but some of the crunches and sit ups I do are the twist variations for the obliques. Plus recently my trainer and I have added some medicine ball exercises to my routine, including ****ing the ball on the obliques for one round. Good job you reminded us all by bringing that up because tough obliques are important in boxing!
                  france!!!! you ****in pansy!!! your a croissant!! your no fighter i would own you sissy!! bring your ass stateside and dance with the devil you out of shape *****. and im gorgeous the women love me go ask. i have a bodybuilders body with photoshoot looks!!

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