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  • #21
    Originally posted by JulioCesaChavez View Post
    You're not Cotto or Oscar though now are you? I always thought Hagler was a lefty or ambidextrous. WTF is Chad Dawson doing on that list?

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    There is a school of thought in boxing that believes your stronger hand should do more of the dog work: jabbing, hooks, etc. But it is wrong! It has become very popular as you may have noticed at the last olympics. You need your money maker in your cross, unless of course you genuinely do have power and MANUAL DEXTERITY in both hands and stances like an ambidextrous Naz.

    There is another school of thought that believes the soutpaw's are flawed and once they are figured out they will get nailed left right and centre and knocked the **** out. It is a popular school of thought amongst latin fighters which is why they have produced so many orthodox lefty's. Also, as a trainer it makes pad work alot easier!

    And finally... Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one! On this topic more than any others in boxing!

    Yea 'tis true, as well to note, and not as cliche'...*******s also tend to have opinions on everything.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
      How do you "snake" your jab up the outside of a southpaws left hand?
      You don't. As a southpaw you snake your jab up the inside of your orthodox opponents left hand.

      You know the jab. Its an up jab that slips in between their gloves instead of a normal jab that always runs into their left glove.

      I know you don't like me, but pretending that you don't know what I am talking about only does a disservice to yourself.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by JulioCesaChavez View Post
        You're not Cotto or Oscar though now are you? I always thought Hagler was a lefty or ambidextrous. WTF is Chad Dawson doing on that list?

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        There is a school of thought in boxing that believes your stronger hand should do more of the dog work: jabbing, hooks, etc. But it is wrong! It has become very popular as you may have noticed at the last olympics. You need your money maker in your cross, unless of course you genuinely do have power and MANUAL DEXTERITY in both hands and stances like an ambidextrous Naz.

        There is another school of thought that believes the soutpaw's are flawed and once they are figured out they will get nailed left right and centre and knocked the **** out. It is a popular school of thought amongst latin fighters which is why they have produced so many orthodox lefty's. Also, as a trainer it makes pad work alot easier!

        And finally... Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one! On this topic more than any others in boxing!
        No, i'm not Oscar, and neither are you. Hagler(Hearns and Leonard have said that he lacked power in his left hand) is indeed a right hander and Chad Dawson too, to my eyes he is the upcomming fighter with the most potential. Thats debatable of course.

        As far as the part about being ambidextrous, well i am, i can write with both hands and switch back to the orthodox stance without any problem. I just choose to fight as a southpaw because i feel better that way.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Equilibrium View Post
          No, i'm not Oscar, and neither are you. Hagler(Hearns and Leonard have said that he lacked power in his left hand) is indeed a right hander and Chad Dawson too, to my eyes he is the upcomming fighter with the most potential. Thats debatable of course.

          As far as the part about being ambidextrous, well i am, i can write with both hands and switch back to the orthodox stance without any problem. I just choose to fight as a southpaw because i feel better that way.
          Well if you can write with both hands then my assumptions were wrong, and you are genuinely WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT ambidextrous. Some people think they are just because they do not feel awkward doing both stances. If you are genuinely both handed then take your pick, or do both. I think the best thing is to have strongest hand at the back because not only will you have more power but you will also have more accuracy and skill where you need it. The stronger hand has more manual dexterity too, which is needed for the punch that comes from the farest point.

          You may have ntoiced Hagler often use to step forward in to orthodox and smack them with a straight right. He is a different case anyway, but even then I really think he would be better off boxing orthodox as a right hander and so would all them pitty patter olympians (who may have to one day turn pro where you need a punch!). I don't agree witht he latino/old school idea that the southpaws are flawed and even lefty's should box orthodox. It is just a mirror image of the orthodox stance, and there are no flaws there.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by TheTruthIs View Post
            Yea 'tis true, as well to note, and not as cliche'...*******s also tend to have opinions on everything.
            Spot on. Shawn fits that bill as he makes up bull**** from anywhere which is always wrong as it is just his opinion and nobody eleses. I on the other hand state facts not opinions, or the opinions of others as in the message you quoted. That one was for information purposes, and I did not state that I subscribe to either way of thinking. Sometimes I do take a stance, but this usually can also be referenced to an expert rather than thin air!

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            • #26
              i'm a natural lefty but i fight orthodox

              my coach says if u can fight orthox, then technically you can switch yourself
              out of trouble.

              I feel more comfortable fighting orthodox anyway, maximizing my jab and left hook.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
                You don't. As a southpaw you snake your jab up the inside of your orthodox opponents left hand.

                You know the jab. Its an up jab that slips in between their gloves instead of a normal jab that always runs into their left glove.

                I know you don't like me, but pretending that you don't know what I am talking about only does a disservice to yourself.
                Aah, I was thinking you were saying that orthodox fighters should throw their jab on the inside of the southpaws left hand, but I see you were talking to a southpaw. Gotcha.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
                  Aah, I was thinking you were saying that orthodox fighters should throw their jab on the inside of the southpaws left hand, but I see you were talking to a southpaw. Gotcha.
                  He did say in his first post that orthodox fighters should do the same thing to a soutpaw, but nobody taught them this magic jab! In a previous thread he says when fighting a southpaw, fight like a southpaw. Someone asked him to elaborate so he went on about snaking the jab and sting and weave in and aout like a snake. both in this thread and that one, when me and other posters pointed out to him that not all southpaws fight like that (as it's just a mirro reflection of orthodox so you will get different sytles with southpaws too), he gave no answer! Because he has no answer and just talks ****e

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