Dealing with a straight edge lifestyle

[Trrmo]

i feel like sarcasm reached through my computer screen and punched me in the face.

like it or not, straight edge is synonymous with hardcore-punk. you can not drink, not smoke, not do drugs, and not be straight edge. plenty of people who have never listened to a judge album live that kind of lifestyle. but you're the one who used the words "straight edge" in the original post, not me.

painting your fingernails and dressing a certain way has nothing to with hardcore and punk, let alone straight edge. in fact i would say people who "dress the part" are the ones who don't understand the ideals and ethics that hardcore was founded on.

and fugazi was never cool. or a straight edge band. just an awesome band.

Yeah I was being sarcastic, I have always liked punk/hardcore music including minor threat who´s use of the word straight edge in the song of the same name in the 80s helped kick off the movement.

I just think the ´straight edge´movement is or was a bit of a wank, I used the term loosely.

I mean I and everyone else dont need to become part of a trend driven movement to legitimise not drinking or smoking and try to glorify it by calling myself a rebel and outsider.

[Trrmo]

Heres the song from 1981 by the way

[PunchDrunk]

Personally, the straight edge scene has been a big part of my life. I've met some of the best people in the world through it, but also some of the worst.

Being straight shouldn't be for popularity, or to fit in, but because it is something you believe is better for you. Hence, it has nothing to do with a scene or a trend. Those losers will be gone sooner or later anyway.

In many respects, it's like boxing. You have to have discipline, and focus on the long term. It's easy to buy all the equipment in the world, or make youtube videos about how tough you are, but when it comes down to doing the work, the majority are found sorely lacking in substance.

[Trrmo]

Personally, the straight edge scene has been a big part of my life. I've met some of the best people in the world through it, but also some of the worst.

Being straight shouldn't be for popularity, or to fit in, but because it is something you believe is better for you. Hence, it has nothing to do with a scene or a trend. Those losers will be gone sooner or later anyway.

In many respects, it's like boxing. You have to have discipline, and focus on the long term. It's easy to buy all the equipment in the world, or make youtube videos about how tough you are, but when it comes down to doing the work, the majority are found sorely lacking in substance.

Thats fair enough I was using the term to just describe not drinking/smoking/taking drugs not to describe a music based lifestyle scene.

[PunchDrunk]

Thats fair enough I was using the term to just describe not drinking/smoking/taking drugs not to describe a music based lifestyle scene.

I agree with you, being drug free is a separate thing.

[eman-resu]

Hardcore anti-alcohol/drug people annoy me more than the AA crowd

IMO it's trading one obsession for another, what's the ****ing point

[sukhenkoy]

I think that if those that live a straight-edge lifestyle and those that don't just don't try to force their beliefs on the other, then there won't be too many problems. I've been straight-edge all my life and when I was 14 and immature I would try to prove to those using drugs and alcohol that they're ******, wasting their life, and all that crap. Over the years I've come to find that I hate people trying to pressure me to do something, so I stopped trying to force my thoughts on others, even though I completely disagree with how they live their life.

If you enjoy what you're doing, and you think it works for you, then by all means. As long as you don't force anybody to change for you, I think it's ok. I don't approve of drugs, but I realize I'm not doing the person any good trying to prove he/she's a dumbass if they do abuse drugs.

[rj_ct]

[PunchDrunk]

Hardcore anti-alcohol/drug people annoy me more than the AA crowd

IMO it's trading one obsession for another, what's the ****ing point

If you think about it, everyone is born straight edge. Drinking/smoking/doing drugs are all learned behaviors. This means that people who do these things choose to do so at one point, where people who don't do them, just continue to be who they've always been. It's not an obsession at all, any more than not jumping off ten story buildings is. For the record, I don't do that either, but it's not something I ever think about, except when I read about someone who did it. Does that make me obsessive?

[eman-resu]

no I mean the people that make it their life or yell it from the rooftops, I mean I think it's ****** to do too much but it's dumb to demonize the people, they can do whatever the **** they want with their own life