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  • #31
    Swimmings all down to technique. My friend smokes all the time, i can run literally 10 times further than him without gassing. Put us in a swimming pool however and he leaves me for dust. He used to swim for my local borough and says its 90% technique and breathing rhythym.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by The Womble Don View Post
      Swimmings all down to technique. My friend smokes all the time, i can run literally 10 times further than him without gassing. Put us in a swimming pool however and he leaves me for dust. He used to swim for my local borough and says its 90% technique and breathing rhythym.
      I think the technique comes into play when you want to swim farther, faster, etc. Kind of a competitive scenario. I think swimming is a HELL of a cardio workout - gets me absolutely knackered after I'm done with it.

      I think a swimming workout is great for a boxer cardiowise, even if he/she doesn't have the swimming technique to swim very fast. You can still swim at a moderate pace, continuously, and run out of breath in 10 minutes.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tenacious View Post
        If cooked meat has no protien then why do bodybuilders eat a massive amount of it and gain a **** load of muscle?!
        your body produces protein itself..it transforms carbons..sugars and starches into aminos...meat has little to do with it

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        • #34
          Originally posted by marshallstack View Post
          Thats just ******. I eat a ****load of red meat. I eat cooked burgers, raw and cooked deer, I eat cooked chicken, i eat raw and cooked fish, even fish straight out of the water still flopping, i eat cooked pork, cooked crab, cooked shrimp, cooked squirrel, possom and even racoon. I eat mayo, butter, cheese, and drink milk and eat fried eggs. If it walks on four legs I've eaten it except for dogs. I think I had the cat at the local chinese place. and on that diet i gained 15 pounds of muscle in a year when i was a senior in high school.

          You can't convince me that cooked meat has no protien. Anyone who believes that is not thinking for themselves.

          If I do curls until I cant touch my shoulders and butterflys til my pecs twitch I can go home and eat a piece of chicken, a hamburger and some macaroni and the next morning I feel completely recovered. So cooked animals are good for you. The bible says to eat the fat of the land.

          Man, if you wanna rip up eat only steak or chicken, don't avoid the fat on steak and don't pull the skin off the chicken. Your joints need fat for lubrication. while on this diet lift the hell outta the wieghts. and do a lot of sit ups. If you are building muscle you will burn fat. Make sure to do some cardio to keep up your endurance so you don't peter out halfway through a fight. And don't focus on wieght too much. Use the mirror and a tape measure to track progress.
          If i was 185 i'd be thrilled. Just keep working out.
          your in for a dis-eased filled life with that diet...if you want to use the bible..it also says let herbs be the healing of the world...and eat the flesh from the trees...IE flesh of fruit and vegatables...and also the most high doesnt dwell in temples made with hands...but you still see people eating lamb..swine..cows...going to worship in church...mosque..synogogue etc.

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          • #35
            So you are a vegan bible preaching fundamentalist who likes to punch people? Interesting.

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            • #36
              Hi vege-protein diet with lean meats, fish and chix coupled with lots of water and running, preverably interval training and no carbs after 3-4 PM...

              The recipe for sucess.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Womble Don View Post
                Swimmings all down to technique. My friend smokes all the time, i can run literally 10 times further than him without gassing. Put us in a swimming pool however and he leaves me for dust. He used to swim for my local borough and says its 90% technique and breathing rhythym.
                Yeah i agree. A couple of these people at the pool seem to have perfect technique, like they have been swimming for years or for some kind of team/club. My technique isnt great and the breathing is something i kinda knew about anyway and have been trying to work on....its slowly getting better

                Its a hell of a cardio work out, i m worn out by the end of the session, its gonna improve stamina more than anything and work some normally un-used muscles, not sure how good it is for weight loss though...half an hour swim vs half an hour run?...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Trrmo View Post
                  So you are a vegan bible preaching fundamentalist who likes to punch people? Interesting.
                  huh?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by danny stash View Post
                    Hi vege-protein diet with lean meats, fish and chix coupled with lots of water and running, preverably interval training and no carbs after 3-4 PM...

                    The recipe for sucess.
                    Great advice right here, i would also include lifting some weights too that will speed up the process .

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by danny stash View Post
                      Hi vege-protein diet with lean meats, fish and chix coupled with lots of water and running, preverably interval training and no carbs after 3-4 PM...

                      The recipe for sucess.
                      Ok, thanks, good advice

                      Whats the deal with carbs? i was under the impression that they were fuel more than anything, as long as u worked out then they couldnt do u any harm?? (ie putting fat on)...

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