another fast twitch question

[j]

I think first and foremost, before thinking about weights, you have to condition your brain to punch fast. You can have quick hands but if you only ever do jab, jab, backhand or left hook [body],

not your brain, you mean your mind. and actually, you should also really try to bypass that so your movements are natural. animals can take care of themselves without thinking really. if you practice and get comfortable in a million different situations, everything just happens. there is no need to try to make anything happen. i think u know what i mean - i am tired and haven't slept so i may ramble a bit. thinking is done in very early parts of training. getting all of those thoughts and strategies to instantly manifest at the right time is another thing.

I agree, it's just that what you're talking about is off topic. Technique is one thing, physical training is another. You need both, obviously.

technique is physical training. i don't often separate the two or think about them separate.

[Stormin' Norman]

I thought this was a boxing forum not a science class I personally dont touch the weights they slow you down.

Boxing is a science.

[PunchDrunk]

technique is physical training. i don't often separate the two or think about them separate.

Yeah, technique is physical as well as mental, agreed. I also agree that in the fight situation, you need to total package to just flow. However, when improving an athlete, I find it advantageous to break down the different parameters, so I can identify weaknesses and strengths, what needs work, and how to do that. It's called the scientific approach, and it works a lot better than guesswork.

[j]

Yeah, technique is physical as well as mental, agreed. I also agree that in the fight situation, you need to total package to just flow. However, when improving an athlete, I find it advantageous to break down the different parameters, so I can identify weaknesses and strengths, what needs work, and how to do that. It's called the scientific approach, and it works a lot better than guesswork.

yeah, me too. but when working on something specific that is physical in nature, it cannot not be physical training. i may just focus more on one particular area. so, i think we agree here. if not, at least we know how to discuss something.

[j]

punch, thanks for the respect btw. i really do not care about who has respect on a damn internet forum. but i have had people PM me and say i should talk more in the training area and ignore what seems to be one or two people who be hating. it is always one person and his alt or some ****.

i started contact sparring when i was 6 years old in karate. that is 20 years ago. i really do not care what some teenaged pimple faced internet warrior is going to say. but is does **** up a nice conversation.

[Fidayin]

punch, thanks for the respect btw. i really do not care about who has respect on a damn internet forum. but i have had people PM me and say i should talk more in the training area and ignore what seems to be one or two people who be hating. it is always one person and his alt or some ****.

i started contact sparring when i was 6 years old in karate. that is 20 years ago. i really do not care what some teenaged pimple faced internet warrior is going to say. but is does **** up a nice conversation.

oh i really think u care or else you wouldn't write that many lines where u are trying to prove that you don't care.

[PunchDrunk]

yeah, me too. but when working on something specific that is physical in nature, it cannot not be physical training. i may just focus more on one particular area. so, i think we agree here. if not, at least we know how to discuss something.

Again, I agree that it's all physical. I use the term physical training when I'm talking about training specific physical traits, like endurance or strength, where technical training would be more boxing specific stuff like pad work or sparring. It does cross over, since a lot of the technical work can actually serve as conditioning as well, and a few of the physical things I use can have a technical element. So, in short, the terms let you know where the focus is, in a specific workout.

And yes, it is quite refreshing to have an actual discussion, instead of a mud slinging contest.

[j]

Again, I agree that it's all physical. I use the term physical training when I'm talking about training specific physical traits, like endurance or strength, where technical training would be more boxing specific stuff like pad work or sparring. It does cross over, since a lot of the technical work can actually serve as conditioning as well, and a few of the physical things I use can have a technical element. So, in short, the terms let you know where the focus is, in a specific workout.

And yes, it is quite refreshing to have an actual discussion, instead of a mud slinging contest.

yeah. there are martial arts forums i could be on if i wanted to. but i love boxing so i chill here. and a lot of times, there are immature people but i don't give a ****.

i remember u are a boxer i think, right? that's why i wanted u to read blog and see how what i do differs from what you do. actually, my teacher has boxing training and wrote an article comparing eastern boxing to western boxing. i should scan and send it to ya sometime.

yes exactly - the overlap. it is always there. i do also utilize exercises that are more common like various kinds of sit ups. but, what i like to do more is encorporate my physical exercises with my fighting techniques sometimes. so, i fight the way i practice, and i practice the way i exercise, and i exercise what skill i want.

[j]

yo punch, i PM you with something somewhat relevent to this discussion

[Landon S]

not your brain, you mean your mind. and actually, you should also really try to bypass that so your movements are natural. animals can take care of themselves without thinking really.

I just think its interesting to note that animals minds operate at a much faster rate than ours. I was watching a program about 5 years ago and it said that a dog or cat looking at a TV would see something similar to what we see when the V-hold is way off, flickering like crazy because its like they see between the frames. Our perception is slow enough that the approx 25 fps seem to blend so it looks fluid to us...totally not related but whatever. Its neat to know.

J, How do you blend your physical & technical training? minute drills or something? could you give an example? how exactly do you feel you benefit from it?

btw- I didnt mean to sling anything before. I was just sick of raph and felt I HAD to say something.