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Originally posted by the_godslayer View Postmate, all im doing is responding to another members question, and by the way Chi is NOT bull****, it may not be the most applicable to boxing but its real nonetheless.
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Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View PostIt is not real. Study it properly. it is hocus pocus make believe bull**** and is tied in with the idolatry and superstitions of buddhism, a false relgion. Even Pacman and Injin Chi did not use that crap because it does not work! Tell me one world champion who used it?
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Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View PostThat is either black magic, an illusion, or bull****. Chi is bull****. I don't think even Manny Paqiaou gives a **** about it. This is boxing and it's the real deal, not some hocus pocus bollocks. Take your chi to the MMA bums forum.
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If this is not a P owned than I dont know the meaning of the wordLast edited by danny stash; 07-16-2008, 09:33 AM.
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i guess i am somewhat obligated to speak on this subject.
1 - ignorance. anyone here actually know or understand what "chi" is? not according to what i read here. responses here sound like nothing but misconceptions. anyone here even speak chinese or understand the basis of the philosophy from which the concept of chi came from?
2 - no chi, no life. that should help clear things up.
3 - no chi, nothing moves. that should clear things up a little more.
so, what is chi? there are something like 70 definitions for it. it is a somewhat abstract concept. chi is very real. magic tricks are two. but chi is not magic trick. too many people watching dragon ball z or listening to hippy taiji teachers.
for the sake of this discussion, i will try to limit what "chi" i am talking about. so, what would be a more accurate description is that chi is energy. that is why it is linked so closely with breath as breath is life and life is movement and you cannot have life or movement without energy. breath, again, can even be a metaphor for expansion and contraction/open and close/in and out/etc.... in other words - movement. the very essence of movement. and what is movement? life.
a lot of times, when you read about chi, you can simply replace the word chi with energy. energy is everywhere and everything. in one way, you could use chi to describe the quality - harmony or disharmony of a state of being as example. it is not limited to people or martial artists.
it would do you guys well to understand that the way of thinking that brought about the understanding of this concept is one of personal experience. typical western thinking is to disassociate yourself and use analytical thought to understand a situation or whatever. however, analytical thought itself is cold and dead without its opposite - experience and feeling/being. neither can exist by itself or on it's own. knowing and understanding are two different things - but both are linked together.
to understand and know chi and t be able to use it to describe the harmony of a situation or state, you have to know and understand the yin yang symbol. i see the yin yang aka taiji symbol in a lot of places; yoga studios, alternative medicine clinics, martial arts gyms. but, who actually understands what the symbol means? many people think yin is different than yang. it is not. they are simply two opposite ends of the same scale. understand? so this gives us a measurement that you can describe any state of being/existence/situation. it is very simple really.
anyways, everybody who breathes has life. life is movement. movement is energy. energy is chi.
in relation to fighting, you want to use chi efficiently so that you have a lot of it. again, simply replace the word chi with energy. and i am speaking on a very broad level. we could go into a specific kind of chi. example - you have chi that is available for you to use for activity such as boxing or basketball. that is different from the chi that keeps your heart beating. there is postnatal and prenatal chi as well - meaning the energy you are born with and then the energy you extract and store from food, air, etc....
anyways, it is not magic. you do not have to believe in it. it is not a religion. many people try to make money off of the concept because people are easily fooled by things they do not understand. this is what makes people think of it as mystical and ****. they not have understanding of it.
and in fighting, yi is the focus, not chi.
It is not real. Study it properly. it is hocus pocus make believe bull**** and is tied in with the idolatry and superstitions of buddhism, a false relgion. Even Pacman and Injin Chi did not use that crap because it does not work! Tell me one world champion who used it?
and a superstition of buddhism? lol? u sort of owned your own self on that one man.Last edited by j; 07-18-2008, 09:52 AM.
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Okay out of the supposed 70 definitions that there for chi, you call chi energy. Okay, so Chi is energy.
So what?
what is the practical application of this to boxing?
I only posted those videos in response to the dubious claim of the guy saying some master could ring a bell on the other side of the room without touching it using chi.
If chi or any special breathing techniques have some practical benefit to boxing I am open minded to hear about it!
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