Peaking? ...plzz eductaed answers only.

[DA1CATAS]

hey DA1 i dont know if this will be helpful but here i go, in bodybuilding (as you know i used to be a competitive one ) peaking before a competition was the worst thing it could happen to you, it means you achieved your best conditioning before time, and its way too difficult to hold that condition for an extended period, actually in bodybuilding to peak perfectly you have to aim to the day and hour of the show and if you miss well good luck to you hahaha

In boxing i would say is something similar especially if you are the kind of person that has to drop a ton of weight to reach your class, i would say it can hurt you because if you are in optimum fighting form right now physically and mentally its going to be hard to keep that kind of intensity ( in your mind and work ethic ) until fight night. Technically its almost impossible to peak in boxing so it cant be about your form. Its all about your physique shape and state of mind.

I hope that was any help to you

Thats what I wanted to hear...I really wanted it to just be about being mentally ready and all. because then i could train my hardest year round without worrying about this peaking thing... I've never actually heard about it until today.



But on the other side of my mind...


Punchdrunk's sounds like what this trainer was telling me today before he had to leave... So 'm guessing i need to study some of this... because though my trainer is gonna calm me down a week b4 the fight .. i still wanna train year round whenever im not fighting.. and i mean hard... so i kept wondering/worrying about this peaking.

[PunchDrunk]

hey DA1 i dont know if this will be helpful but here i go, in bodybuilding (as you know i used to be a competitive one ) peaking before a competition was the worst thing it could happen to you, it means you achieved your best conditioning before time, and its way too difficult to hold that condition for an extended period, actually in bodybuilding to peak perfectly you have to aim to the day and hour of the show and if you miss well good luck to you hahaha

In boxing i would say is something similar especially if you are the kind of person that has to drop a ton of weight to reach your class, i would say it can hurt you because if you are in optimum fighting form right now physically and mentally its going to be hard to keep that kind of intensity ( in your mind and work ethic ) until fight night. Technically its almost impossible to peak in boxing so it cant be about your form. Its all about your physique shape and state of mind.

I hope that was any help to you

I agree, peaking too early is not a good thing. I don't think he has anything to worry about though. I don't see any indication that he has peaked already, in fact, I'm pretty sure he can keep going upwards for the next two weeks. My gues would be that he has never reached his peak/limit before, and as long as he keeps working hard, he can get even better for a while before hitting his roof.

The fact that he is almost at his fighting weight already just means that he doesn't have to worry about it too much. Ah, the luxury!

[DA1CATAS]

Another quick question punch...


Should i not get to 165 b4 fighting...? should i do the dry out thing?

which is better? or the affects...

[PunchDrunk]

Thats what I wanted to hear...I really wanted it to just be about being mentally ready and all. because then i could train my hardest year round without worrying about this peaking thing... I've never actually heard about it until today.



But on the other side of my mind...


Punchdrunk's sounds like what this trainer was telling me today before he had to leave...

One of my kids, who is the national 152 champion here, recently had two weeks off training completely for the first time in about 8 months. It seriously did wonders for him. He came back to basic training in about 85% of his previous peak conditioning, but much stronger and much more explosive. I'd guess that he can now reach 110-120% of his previous peak, which would not have been possible if I'd kept him in training.

Taking time off at the right times is just as important as working your ass off.

[DA1CATAS]

One of my kids, who is the national 152 champion here, recently had two weeks off training completely for the first time in about 8 months. It seriously did wonders for him. He came back to basic training in about 85% of his previous peak conditioning, but much stronger and much more explosive. I'd guess that he can now reach 110-120% of his previous peak, which would not have been possible if I'd kept him in training.

Taking time off at the right times is just as important as working your ass off.

WOW.....

THAT is very interesting... break and come back stronger.


I need to speak with my main trainer... i couldn't ask him anything because he comes back again 2mora...

[PunchDrunk]

Another quick question punch...


Should i not get to 165 b4 fighting...? should i do the dry out thing?

which is better? or the affects...

Since you're already at 169, it doesn't seem like hitting 165 should be a problem for you. If you'd never been down there, I would have you try and dry out to reach it today, just so we'd know how hard it would be, and so you'd know you could do it. I don't think that's necessary though, so just stay where you are until a week before, and then take off a pound every day or two, so you'll be within a pound the night before. For your size, I'd estimate that you lose at least a pound during a night's sleep, so you should be hitting 165 easily that way, and you'll be strong for your fight, physically as well as mentally.

How much weight do you lose over the course of a training? Before/after weight?

[PunchDrunk]

WOW.....

THAT is very interesting... break and come back stronger.


I need to speak with my main trainer... i couldn't ask him anything because he comes back again 2mora...

Yeah, it's quite exciting too see just how much of a difference something like that can do. He really was in need of a break though, so keep in mind that this was a result of the hard, hard work we'd been doing for about eight months straight.

[..David..]

oh yeah i totally agree with you punchdrunk its absolutely important to give the rest your body needs sometimes, dont worry too much about the rest musclememory does wonders,

Dont get me wrong i am not talking like one day you dont feel like boxing and starting going only when you want to thats just being lazy, hahaha its all about recovery from fatigue , training, and fighting and coming back in optimum shape after a couple of weeks so you don't hit a plateau and can keep improving without feeling tired most of the time.

[DA1CATAS]

Since you're already at 169, it doesn't seem like hitting 165 should be a problem for you. If you'd never been down there, I would have you try and dry out to reach it today, just so we'd know how hard it would be, and so you'd know you could do it. I don't think that's necessary though, so just stay where you are until a week before, and then take off a pound every day or two, so you'll be within a pound the night before. For your size, I'd estimate that you lose at least a pound during a night's sleep, so you should be hitting 165 easily that way, and you'll be strong for your fight, physically as well as mentally.

How much weight do you lose over the course of a training? Before/after weight?

I train and sometimes *(without my trainers permission)* I use a BAg at home when i shadow box/run/jump rope...

After i do that 3 times it starts to just fall off of me without using the bag for the next 3-4 weeks...

like.. the bag puts my body in a sweat state or losing state and i just start losing.. I never feel drained and I actually feel better and faster... I haven't used the bag for a few weeks since i made that movie...

I was gonna maybe use it this weekend. most times i've went to 165 i've came from 185-180 range...

This is the last tiem though.. im gonna try to just hang around 165-170 now.

[DA1CATAS]

hey one more question..... when does the body start eating muscle... I wanna eb sure about that area.

because i've gotten alot leaner and the bulges/love handles are almost gone... and i wanna eb sure i dont start losin muscle.