how to get on the boxing olympic team

[Southpaw16]

After 5 am fights, you can get into which kind of tournaments?? The ONLY way to get to the Olympics if you're from Holland is

A. Get to the quartefinals at the world championships that took place last year (so that ship has sailed), or

B. Get picked by the national boxing federation of Holland to represent your country in one of the ONLY two qualifying tournaments, that are held in Greece and Italy sometime in the next two months.

There are a total of 8 slots in each weight division in the Olympics for european boxers. Realizing that you compete with the Russians, Ukrainians, Romanians, Hungarians, Italians, English, French, etc. etc., for those few slots, qualifying for the Olympics when you're from Holland is at least as hard as it is to do as an American. Usually America has a boxer qualified in each division, which the Dutch DEFINITELY won't.

P.S. I take it you're not on the Holland national team that are gonna have two national team contests against my country (Denmark) over the next few months? I guarantee you there are no 5 fight beginners in that squad. I also guarantee you that no 5 fight beginner will get the chance to qualify ahead of any of those guys. In short, what you're saying is so completely wrong, it's downright ridiculous.

He clearly said he is aiming for the 2012 olympics.

[PunchDrunk]

He clearly said he is aiming for the 2012 olympics.

No, the guy I was responding to said:

win alot, get into a qualifiers tournament win it, done. But its different in the usa offcourse. Im from holland so, after 5 amateur fights ill be able to compete in such a tournament, why? its a small country,not many amateur boxers, and they arent even in my weight class.
In the Usa getting to the olympics is already a big fking achievement.

No mention of 2012 in that.

Even if you were right (which you are clearly not), what I said still stands. There is absolutely no way anyone with 5 amateur fights, anywhere in the world, much less Europe, is going to enter a Olympic qual tournament. That, and the fact that qualifying for the Olympics in Europe is just as big an achievement as in the US, were the points I was making. He basically said that qualifying for the Olympics if you're from Holland is easy, which is laughable.

[moin126]

I was clearly talking of a 2012 scenario. But you assuming i meant the 2008 olympics is a bit, i dont know punch drunk ^_^.

the 5 fight thing was a little exagerration. all i am saying is not alot of competition here in the lower weight classes. After some fights they send you off to tournaments then you can compete in a qualifier simple as that.
And they probably finance all of it.

''Usually America has a boxer qualified in each division, which the Dutch DEFINITELY won't.''

that makes it that much more easy to get into a qualifier and have a shot.
Easy work.

[aussieboxer2320]

what weight class are you? in australian you have to be aust champ 4 your weight class or sumtin , go to the oceania games, then go to the world championships and get to the quarterfinals or the semis if your a super heavyweight, i think?

[PunchDrunk]

I was clearly talking of a 2012 scenario. But you assuming i meant the 2008 olympics is a bit, i dont know punch drunk ^_^.

the 5 fight thing was a little exagerration. all i am saying is not alot of competition here in the lower weight classes. After some fights they send you off to tournaments then you can compete in a qualifier simple as that.
And they probably finance all of it.

''Usually America has a boxer qualified in each division, which the Dutch DEFINITELY won't.''

that makes it that much more easy to get into a qualifier and have a shot.
Easy work.

Read my post again. I was talking about the general system of qualifying for the Olympics.

First of all, there are only 8 slots per division (fewer at 48, 92 and 91+)available for ALL OF THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, including Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Turkey, Aizerbaijan, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Italy, England, Ireland, Germany, just to name 14 (!) of the stronger nations. THOSE are the fighters you'll be competing against to qualify!
Easy work? That is hands down the hardest qualifying group in the world. This is how it is, regardless of you talking about 2008 or 2012 or 2754 for that matter.

Second of all, you don't even get to go to those for Holland, unless you're really good and experienced. I happen to know a few of the guys in your national squad, and getting into that squad is NOT easy.

Fact: Holland only had 5 participants in the 2007 world championships, 60, 64, 69, 75, 81kg divisions. Now, for the world championships (which were also a Olympics qual tournament), there is no qualification. Each country can participate with one boxer in each of the 11 weight divisions. Now, if qualifying for the Olympics is so easy, being from Holland, and if they'll finance it all, why did they send only five out of eleven? Getting into a qualifier is clearly NOT easy work, since they don't even send a full team!
You started out saying fighters with five fights could qualify for the Olympics, you claim it's easy work. Well, you've clearly demonstrated you don't know how the process works, and you are full of ****.

[moin126]

hey hey, easy on the shirt. With that attitude say good bye to the olympics. You seem a bit scared by it all. With the skills , its easy work.

Your giving nice background info nice. But you obviously dont know how it works here. there are many qualifying opportunitys like the world championships and 2 others to be held in next few months right?, but i was talking 2012. 4 Years.
and given the amount of competiters here in holland, there will be enough attention to the ones wanting it, certainly in a 4 year time span, why such scarce number of fighters? well there arent many.

But common man keep your head up with that attitude you wont get anywhere, im not saying its a walk in the park, but nothing is impossible.

[PunchDrunk]

hey hey, easy on the shirt. With that attitude say good bye to the olympics. You seem a bit scared by it all. With the skills , its easy work.

Your giving nice background info nice. But you obviously dont know how it works here. there are many qualifying opportunitys like the world championships and 2 others to be held in next few months right?, but i was talking 2012. 4 Years.
and given the amount of competiters here in holland, there will be enough attention to the ones wanting it, certainly in a 4 year time span, why such scarce number of fighters? well there arent many.

But common man keep your head up with that attitude you wont get anywhere, im not saying its a walk in the park, but nothing is impossible.

I'm not trying to qualify for the Olympics, and I'm certainly not scared in any way shape or form. I do realize how difficult it is, which you certainly don't. Try reading what I'm saying to you: Whether you're talking about 2008 or 2012 DOESN'T MATTER. There's still only the world championships and two following qual tournaments (which will then be in 2011 and 2012). It simply doesn't matter how many (or few) competitors there are in Holland, because they ONLY take the few VERY strong Holland guys to those tournaments, and even they have very small chances of qualifying, because they're competing against Russians, Bulgarians etc. for a measley 8 slots.

You're not saying it's a walk in the park, but you're saying it's easy work? You say a Dutch kid with 5 fights can qualify, but you're not saying a Dutch kid with 5 fights can qualify? Maybe you should think it through before you write, because you simply don't know what you're talking about.

[moin126]

man you dont seem to get it.
1.There arent many competitors here you agree.
2. Only a few strong guys, ok that makes sense
3. 2012, a 4 year time span.

When you have enough talent, and have done enough amateurs in those years, and also make sure your talents stands out. they will bring you to tournaments. and you get a shot. russians bulgarians doesnt matter, they arent aliens, they dont have 4 legs and 6 arms.

[PunchDrunk]

man you dont seem to get it.
1.There arent many competitors here you agree.
2. Only a few strong guys, ok that makes sense
3. 2012, a 4 year time span.

When you have enough talent, and have done enough amateurs in those years, and also make sure your talents stands out. they will bring you to tournaments. and you get a shot. russians bulgarians doesnt matter, they arent aliens, they dont have 4 legs and 6 arms.

I don't seem to get it? you said:

Im from holland so, after 5 amateur fights ill be able to compete in such a tournament, why? its a small country,not many amateur boxers, and they arent even in my weight class.

Completely ridiculous.
You said:

After some fights they send you off to tournaments then you can compete in a qualifier simple as that.

No they don't. It's a long, hard road, the guys who Holland send out to these things are boxers with usually 100+ fights, and maybe 80 fights as the lowest.

You said:

But you obviously dont know how it works here. there are many qualifying opportunitys like the world championships and 2 others to be held in next few months right?

NO, there AREN'T "many qualifying opportunities, there are the world championships held the year before the Olympics, and then two qualifiers to fill out the last of the 8 slots (for 50 European countries!). That is three opportunities every four YEARS. Again, you don't know how it works.

You said:

When you have enough talent, and have done enough amateurs in those years, and also make sure your talents stands out

There are ONLY eight boxers in each division with enough talent to qualify, in ALL OF EUROPE! That is not easy work.

You said:

russians bulgarians doesnt matter, they arent aliens, they dont have 4 legs and 6 arms

That is true they don't, but if you ever fought a top Russian, you'd think they did. Just ask the guys in your current national squad.

That's it, I've said my peace and you can go on your way, and continue to be ignorant.

[moin126]

common punch drunk. you seem like a very negative person. These poeple said 20 fights with good performance and we will send you,If you want to.

Its a long but hard road for those who dont want it. A 4 year time span is enough, hell 2 years is enough, and dont they have world championships every year? So by that time you should have done it atleast twice. Man thats easy.

now raise your glass and toast me.