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  • #11
    Originally posted by Salty View Post
    Well how are you measuring your bf%? It could be that you have large lower obliques but that's unlikely. Do you have to tense to see your 6-pack?
    i check bodyfat percentage with that machine that sends an electric pulse throughout your body; i know it's not the best method, but it's the only measurement that is accessible to me. inspecting my own body, 9 percent is about right.

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    • #12
      He's saying that by working your obliques they become tighter hence bringing in your "love handles". Personally i don't think you can have both love handles and a six pack unless you are tensing your abs to see it. Is that techniques just on a set of scales? If so that's not accurate at all, but only good for changes in %.
      Last edited by Salty; 12-02-2007, 03:00 AM.

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      • #13
        I have the same thing except i only have a six pack when flexing. It's like I'm a chick with big hips and a big ass.

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        • #14
          Im not saying you can spot reduce fat because we all know that isnt possible. But im saying if you train your obliques it will tighten up your sides

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          • #15
            Originally posted by fraidycat View Post
            Are you kidding? You're kidding, right? Explain your thinking, here.
            what are his goals?

            If he wants tips on how to 'shape' his body, I gave him bodybuilding advice. At 147 there ain't no way he's massive, and 9% bodyfat is ripped, so there would be no excess fat around his waist. So if he wants to do bodybuilding, he should clean bulk to gain more mass and obviously focus on his entire body (who cares what he benches) by incorporating core lifts such as squats and deadlifts alongside his bench press, as these would help him truly get big.

            The exercise of clean bulking would a) clean up his diet and teach him good eating habits- opening his eyes to the fact hes not 9%, b) he would also understand that his shoulders and chest are not huge (unless he has 2 sticks for legs), and a 215bench is nothing special.

            If he is a fighter, than what his obliques look like is irrelevant. Either way his diet is clearly at fault, I hope you wont disagree with me here. Hes not eating enough and what he is eating is not predominantly vegetables fruits and red meats, if both cases were true he'd weigh in at the mid 160s with a true bf of 9%.

            If he is just interested in getting a ripped midsection, he should eat better (and more) and start running.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by hollow View Post
              what are his goals?

              If he wants tips on how to 'shape' his body, I gave him bodybuilding advice. At 147 there ain't no way he's massive, and 9% bodyfat is ripped, so there would be no excess fat around his waist. So if he wants to do bodybuilding, he should clean bulk to gain more mass and obviously focus on his entire body (who cares what he benches) by incorporating core lifts such as squats and deadlifts alongside his bench press, as these would help him truly get big.

              The exercise of clean bulking would a) clean up his diet and teach him good eating habits- opening his eyes to the fact hes not 9%, b) he would also understand that his shoulders and chest are not huge (unless he has 2 sticks for legs), and a 215bench is nothing special.

              If he is a fighter, than what his obliques look like is irrelevant. Either way his diet is clearly at fault, I hope you wont disagree with me here. Hes not eating enough and what he is eating is not predominantly vegetables fruits and red meats, if both cases were true he'd weigh in at the mid 160s with a true bf of 9%.

              If he is just interested in getting a ripped midsection, he should eat better (and more) and start running.
              repping 215 is a lot relative to my height and weight. 147 for someone who boxes and is only 5'7 is very heavy; most guys my height are 135ish. you're right, my chest and shoulders aren't HUGE, but i have no interest in looking like a body builder. if somehow i gained 13 more pounds and became 160, i'd get pulverized in the ring. adding all that weight, even if it's muscle, would seriously slow down my punching speed. i don't really understand your recommendation. i'm happy with my current weight, but i'm unhappy with my lovehandles. so what exactly are you suggesting? how can i slim my sides without putting on more weight?

              are you questioning my body fat ratio too? it's definitely around 9% plus or minus 1.

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              • #17
                Is it just bone? Ive a buddy whos a stick and has bony "love handles" theyre his hip bone (its weird). Even so I agree with kryo with working the obliques. If you feel theyre to small try to build up your obliques but if theyre soft or something just try to tone em. or maybe your inner fat man is trying to get out

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Landon S View Post
                  Is it just bone? Ive a buddy whos a stick and has bony "love handles" theyre his hip bone (its weird). Even so I agree with kryo with working the obliques. If you feel theyre to small try to build up your obliques but if theyre soft or something just try to tone em. or maybe your inner fat man is trying to get out
                  naw. i wish it was just bone. the love handles are above my hip bone.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by hollow View Post
                    what are his goals?

                    If he wants tips on how to 'shape' his body, I gave him bodybuilding advice. At 147 there ain't no way he's massive, and 9% bodyfat is ripped, so there would be no excess fat around his waist. So if he wants to do bodybuilding, he should clean bulk to gain more mass and obviously focus on his entire body (who cares what he benches) by incorporating core lifts such as squats and deadlifts alongside his bench press, as these would help him truly get big.

                    The exercise of clean bulking would a) clean up his diet and teach him good eating habits- opening his eyes to the fact hes not 9%, b) he would also understand that his shoulders and chest are not huge (unless he has 2 sticks for legs), and a 215bench is nothing special.

                    If he is a fighter, than what his obliques look like is irrelevant. Either way his diet is clearly at fault, I hope you wont disagree with me here. Hes not eating enough and what he is eating is not predominantly vegetables fruits and red meats, if both cases were true he'd weigh in at the mid 160s with a true bf of 9%.

                    If he is just interested in getting a ripped midsection, he should eat better (and more) and start running.
                    Good answer. Thanks for explaining what you meant. Here's some K.

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