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    I was watching Jack Johnson's classic boutwith Jim Jefries on Tv recently. Not exactly a live event since it happened in 1910 (I think) but still very interesting. Aside from the vast difference in pace from modern boxing I really liked the way Johnson would smother Jeffries in the Clinch. Grabbing his elbows and bicepswith both hands. And leaning into him. From there he would release one hand anddeliver a devastating shot like the uppercut in the final round which stunned Jeffries and set him up for the finish. Another different point from modern day boxing is that Johnson was allowed to standover Jeffries as the count was delivered.Perfectly legally as the moment Jim regainedhis feet he was pummelled around the ring in scenes of chaos as pressman and cornermen invaded the ring while the fight was still goingon. There's a lot of debate about fighting in the clinch, what is know rather misleadinglytermed dirty boxing. But in modern MMA andfighting for selfdefence it's one of the most important things. The trick is like every other technique isto leverage your whole body into the punch.Too many people just use arm punches inthe clinch, but one really good uppercutor elbow is a fight finisher. You just have to learn proper technique and practice it. Just like we do in the Ultimate Punch DVD where I teach how to strike with all your body when you are engaged in a clinch. The best modern puncher in a clinch I'veseen recently is Houston Alexander where he rocked Keith Jardine's world withuppercuts in the clinch. Also look at Randy Couture's last fight where he systematically works his opponent over ina clicnch against the cage wall. Look at one of the most common street attacksbetween two men.One will hold the jacket of the other guy whileslamming his fist into his face.What's that but a clinch variation. What about a guy grabbing a girl, same thing,she's in a clinch. Botton line,it's one thing to practice on a bagor pads. But get used to hitting whensomeone is holding on to you, draggingyou around or trying to pull youto the floor and you'll be a whole lot more prepared. SlainteDermot McGrathPS if you want a great read check outUnforgivable Blackness, The biographyof Jack Johnson. One of the best bookson a boxer I have ever read. It covershis incredible life and times, always fascinating and very readable.
    Gere is something I got from my email which is pretty cool on the importance of fighting someone who clinchs.

    drop all the boxing bull****, people wont clinch but in real life fight 80% people clinch and you have to deal with it.

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    soo true i always "clinch" first but its more like i hiptoss the person(nevertheless i stll gotta grab em) , it can be intimidating, disorienting and painful.

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    • #3
      hmmm.... i dont like clinching. i try to avoid fighting outside the ring with all my life, but sometimes you HAVE to lay someone out. any street fight i ever been in i never clinch, the other guy always tries to obviously, but i jus stay on the outside and pick him off. only 2 or 3 shots til they either back down or lay down, know wut i mean?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
        hmmm.... i dont like clinching. i try to avoid fighting outside the ring with all my life, but sometimes you HAVE to lay someone out. any street fight i ever been in i never clinch, the other guy always tries to obviously, but i jus stay on the outside and pick him off. only 2 or 3 shots til they either back down or lay down, know wut i mean?
        2 or 3? you must hit hard or theyre just pansies, then again ive found i have a high pain threshold but ive never gotten in a street fight with a boxer tho. i usually try to avoid fights as well (u wouldnt know that lately though...) theyre just another stress no one needs in theyre life and ive got to many gray hairs as it is for 21.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by greengloves View Post
          2 or 3? you must hit hard or theyre just pansies, then again ive found i have a high pain threshold but ive never gotten in a street fight with a boxer tho. i usually try to avoid fights as well (u wouldnt know that lately though...) theyre just another stress no one needs in theyre life and ive got to many gray hairs as it is for 21.
          you'll be surprised at the difference between punching someone in the chin with a glove and doing it with a bare hand

          the power is tranmitted far more quickly meaning even a little jab can hurt you!

          the outcome of 95% of streetfights is determined by who lands the first punch/.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by greengloves View Post
            2 or 3? you must hit hard or theyre just pansies, then again ive found i have a high pain threshold but ive never gotten in a street fight with a boxer tho. i usually try to avoid fights as well (u wouldnt know that lately though...) theyre just another stress no one needs in theyre life and ive got to many gray hairs as it is for 21.
            i dont care who it is, they aint takin 3 clean shots from me to the head and jaw and still comin forward...it aint happenin...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by hemichromis View Post
              you'll be surprised at the difference between punching someone in the chin with a glove and doing it with a bare hand

              the power is tranmitted far more quickly meaning even a little jab can hurt you!

              the outcome of 95% of streetfights is determined by who lands the first punch/.
              gee ya THINK?! wow thanks 4 the lesson i had NO idea.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
                i dont care who it is, they aint takin 3 clean shots from me to the head and jaw and still comin forward...it aint happenin...
                yeah but MOST ppl dont land very clean shots or even know how to punch well. maybe your shots would take me down, i dont know you and you dont know me so....yeah it doesnt really matter anyhow

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by greengloves View Post
                  gee ya THINK?! wow thanks 4 the lesson i had NO idea.....
                  no problem! anything else you want to know?

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