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  • #11
    I find that a right hook can be thrown very compact. I've always had pretty good succes with throwing it over the opponent's jab. I'd step in and slip to the left while throwing the left hook around his jab. Never got countered doing that...

    It's not something I teach my fighters though, just a personal move that seemed to work for me.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post

      It's not something I teach my fighters though, just a personal move that seemed to work for me.
      i've been shown it. My trainer got shown it on a coaching course he went too - (to get his international standard coaching qualification). Its ok... messy at times and difficult to land. Apparently its a favourite move of Hatton aswell. So when the coach announced this to the legion of 12 year old English amatuers they automatically NEEDED to know. lol

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      • #13
        Originally posted by mickeyb View Post
        i've been shown it. My trainer got shown it on a coaching course he went too - (to get his international standard coaching qualification). Its ok... messy at times and difficult to land. Apparently its a favourite move of Hatton aswell. So when the coach announced this to the legion of 12 year old English amatuers they automatically NEEDED to know. lol
        Not everyone can do it IMO. You need to be able to read your opponent, and a lot of people just can't do that very well. In that case, yeah it might become messy and you shouldn't (can't) do it. If you can read your opponent, it's a beautiful thing. I've put people down more times with that, than all the other punches put together, and I'm actually left handed (fighting orthodox), and for years I could hardly do anything with my right hand at all. I was all jabs and left hooks...

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        • #14
          I feel uncomfortable throwing the right hook and I feel it leave me too open. My coach doesnt really get me to throw many.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
            Not everyone can do it IMO. You need to be able to read your opponent, and a lot of people just can't do that very well. In that case, yeah it might become messy and you shouldn't (can't) do it. If you can read your opponent, it's a beautiful thing. I've put people down more times with that, than all the other punches put together, and I'm actually left handed (fighting orthodox), and for years I could hardly do anything with my right hand at all. I was all jabs and left hooks...
            Without blowing my own trumpet! haha, i can read opponents quite well - as a shorter fighter for my weight, i slip alot of punches and rely on my reactions as part of my primarily counter-puncher style.

            I get the feeling that the overhand right became messy often, because my sparring partners are always taller than me. I become off balance as a try and lean/lunge forward trying to get over the jabbing arm. (Not that i try and lunge/lean...but thats what it becomes..and therefore is wrong)... do you know what i mean?

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            • #16
              then again - if its a Hatton move...surely its capable by a short fighter...

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              • #17
                I think it depends a lot on the type of fighter you are, the type of punch you are used to throwing, and your fighting stance.

                For someone who stays upclose on their opponent it would be easier for someone who likes to move around and keep their distance.
                Also if you keep your lead shoulder practically parallel with your head it would be harder than if you had a more "square" stance as the distance to travel would be smaller.
                Also a crapload of people in my gym dont turn their hooks over and wing them (which ended up with them hitting me with their palm where theres no padding and giving me a bloody nose at one point. Maybe thats how calzaghe hurts his opponents lol). If youre the kind of person who wings your shots a lot then you probably will feel more vulnerable as your shoulder isnt turned and your chin isnt tucked as well. If youre a person who weaves and bobs a lot i think its a good surprise weapon to use. Especially as so many people seem to not use it, they shouldnt have much experience dealing with it(hopefully).

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                • #18
                  With my old coach I used to throw it alot,and hurt and knock down ppl with the right hook.Then when I went to my current gym it was a no no,big time. I can see why though. Its way too open for plenty of counters. I always just throw it to the body. Or if Im close enough I'll throw a over hand right,but thats when really close to my opponent.

                  I used to think Tyson did it,but when he threw his right hooks alot of the times.He would switch to southpaw to throw it. It took me awhile to realize that.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7 View Post
                    With my old coach I used to throw it alot,and hurt and knock down ppl with the right hook.Then when I went to my current gym it was a no no,big time. I can see why though. Its way too open for plenty of counters. I always just throw it to the body. Or if Im close enough I'll throw a over hand right,but thats when really close to my opponent.

                    I used to think Tyson did it,but when he threw his right hooks alot of the times.He would switch to southpaw to throw it. It took me awhile to realize that.
                    All these counters you're talking about... How do you counter a counterpunch that is timed with your own jab? And with what punches?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by mickeyb View Post
                      Without blowing my own trumpet! haha, i can read opponents quite well - as a shorter fighter for my weight, i slip alot of punches and rely on my reactions as part of my primarily counter-puncher style.

                      I get the feeling that the overhand right became messy often, because my sparring partners are always taller than me. I become off balance as a try and lean/lunge forward trying to get over the jabbing arm. (Not that i try and lunge/lean...but thats what it becomes..and therefore is wrong)... do you know what i mean?
                      I can relate to that. I would mostly throw it against opponents my height or lower.

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